6 Replies Latest reply: Jan 6, 2008 9:19 AM by Jorgen Gustafson
gazo Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
Hi FCP users,

I am actually an audio guy, but I would like an answer on something.

I work with Logic, and usually use quicktime movies when I am working to movies. But I am working with a client who is an Avid user and swears by avi files. Can someone explain to me the difference. My client explained to me that avi's are better than mov files. He claims their file sizes are bigger, so therefore there quality is better. He said there is some form of compression on quicktime movies which lessen the quality to avi, even if the mov is uncompressed apparently the quality is still less than an uncompressed avi. If this is not true, could someone give me the real big difference between the two.

I thought is was more of a preference, like windows users prefer wav, and apple users like quicktime movies. Like with audio, there isnt a huge difference between aif and wav. Windows users prefer wav and apple users aif.

Thanks in advance for any information.

G5 DP 2.0GHz, 1.5GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.4.8), Logic Pro 8, PT LE 7.3
  • George Bazhenov II Level 3 Level 3 (605 points)
    Just waiting for it to begin...

    All I know about AVI is that even Microsoft, its inventor, ceased support for this format but it simply would not die.
  • gazo Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    I understand that AVI is a Microsoft format, and MOV an Apple format, but is there any other difference than that? I still prefer quicktime movies. But if there is some insane difference it would be nice to know.
  • Studio X Level 7 Level 7 (26,990 points)
    The both are file 'wrappers' and are not a full format in and of themselves. A file in either must be encoded in a specific Codec (compression/decompression) format. Some codecs are only written in one platform (Mac or PC only).

    Rather than deal with which is better, the discussion should be - on which platform is the file to be edited? Once you know that, find a format that is native to that platform. If you are working on a Mac, you should be working in QT.

    x
  • gazo Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    The vid guy has sent me some files to work with. So I am working in Final Cut to edit some of the video, and then sending it back to him. He is working on PC with Avid. What is the best. Should I convert the avi files he has sent to me to mov files. Then pull these into FCP, and then export it out as avi for him. Or should I export out as mov, and then he converts them to avi when he pulls it into Avid on his PC? Very confusing which is the best procedure between Mac and PC.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
  • David Bogie Chq-1 Level 7 Level 7 (24,965 points)
    gazo wrote:
    The vid guy has sent me some files to work with. So I am working in Final Cut to edit some of the video, and then sending it back to him. He is working on PC with Avid. What is the best. Should I convert the avi files he has sent to me to mov files. Then pull these into FCP, and then export it out as avi for him. Or should I export out as mov, and then he converts them to avi when he pulls it into Avid on his PC? Very confusing which is the best procedure between Mac and PC.
    Thanks in advance for any help.


    This is a disaster in the making. You can avoid being part of the train wreck by either renting an Avid, going to live at his house, or telling him to get a Macintosh.

    You must find the lowest common denominator video format that will work on both of your systems. That could be conventional DV, dunno, never used Avid and never tried to edit anything on a PC. But I can tell you this with absolute certainty, it will be easier and, in the end, much less expensive for one of you to adopt the other's platform for the duration of this project. The time you waste transcoding, arguing, formatting your drives, buying secondary products, fitting round pegs into square holes, and trying to find a workable solution (that will keep changing as the project gets more complicated) will cost you much more in terms of money out of pocket and creative frustration than simply buying/renting another station.

    bogiesan
  • Jorgen Gustafson Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    I often work with video animators - some of them use PC 'cause of some app witch is not released for Mac. But all these guys use QuickTime - no one use AVI. If you run video prod on a PC and still haven't installed QuickTime - you are not serious and you do not have plans to cooperate with the professional community. That's my humble opinion.