Trash not working (file will be deleted immediately)

I'm having this too, a long with mail, safari and ical crashing when i open them. i'm positive it's a permissions fault but have no idea how to sort it out!

Sorry I cannot help but add a similar problem. My mail seems to empty, it goes through the right phases and makes the right noise as if it empties, but then everything remains in the trash.

The only solution I have found is to use Onyx 1.9 and force emptying the trash. Any idea anyone?

That dialog only comes up on remote volumes. If you connected to an AFP server, for example, and tried to move something to the trash, it would give you the same response. There is a technical reason for it that someone told me once, but I can't remember right now. Sorry.

As for your specific issue, my guess would be that its due to your home directory being on a remote NFS volume. Leopard has been having issues with NFS as of late. Remote home directories are possible (we use them at work all the time), but they have to be setup in a specific way in order to work properly. You can't just redirect it via the Accounts Pref Pane or a bunch of symlinks.

It sounds like a bug that you should tell Apple about to make sure it gets fixed.

http://bugreporter.apple.com

Any response to your bug?

One thing I was thinking was that if the File Manager considers the volume (and ultimately the trash folder inside it) to be read-only or locked, this dialog will appear. Go into Terminal and type:

ls -lde <path to NFS volume your home directory is on>

What would also be really helpful is, if you have the Xcode/Developer tools installed, run:

/Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo <path to NFS volume your home directory is on>
/Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo ~/.Trash

Copy/paste the results from both commands into a reply and post it up. If you don't have the Xcode/Developer Tools installed on that machine, you could copy the file /Developer/Tools/GetInfo from another machine to your Desktop and run it by typing:

~/Desktop/GetFileInfo <path to NFS volume your home directory is on>
~/Desktop/GetFileInfo ~/.Trash

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If you run ls -lde on ~/.Trash, does it show you as the owner? If not, then set yourself as the owner and then force quit the finder.

The privs etc look fine, although the volume /home is mounted with read-only privs. It shouldn't make a difference with an HFS+ volume, but might with NFS. Leopard has been acting weird with NFS volumes as of late.

Another interesting thing is that the create dates are all 1/1/1904 at 1am. Don't think that makes a difference, but it is weird.

Either way, I would definitely write a bug up (via http://bugreporter.apple.com) and give them the info you've gathered.

If you are the owner of the file/folder, then the group has no effect (unless you get into the world of ACLs, which you aren't right now so don't worry).

The group staff is a group containing all the local admin users on your machine. If you are an admin, you should have already been a member of staff. If your not an admin, then you should not be a member. Being a member of staff essentially makes you an admin user, but not entirely.

As for the bug report, thats how it is sometimes. If they already have a bug about the problem they will dupe your bug to that bug. No point in tracking the same bug in multiple places. It does suck in that you no longer have access to see what is going on with the bug, but thats life I guess. At least you know that your not the only one with this problem, its just that someone else wrote a bug up before you did.

Note: from talking with friends who are Apple Engineers, just because your bug report got duped to another bug report shouldn't discourage you from writing up bug reports. You never know, you could add some tid-bit of information that helps solve the problem. Also, the number of dupes for a bug report (along with the severity of the issue) is taken into consideration when they figure out which bugs to fix for a Software Update.

Good luck...

I am having the same problem...went to an apple store today, but they did not know how to fix it. But here is something odd...I upgraded to 10.5 when it came out and my trash can worked like it always had. I recently had a problem that caused me to run DiskWarrior and repair permissions. Bad move as I found out later on the DW site....it is not compatible with 10.5 and all my permissions on lots of programs stopped working. End result is I had to reload 10.5 again. Now all the problems caused by the DW seem to be fixed.....EXCEPT the trash problem.

I'll keep following this thread, but I'd sure like to find out why it doesn't work.

Are you also running a remote NFS home directory?

I don't think I am as I only use the hard drive installed in the iMac, plus it is formated as Journaled HFS+.

Again...all worked perfectly with 10.5 for the past two months. Only since I had to reload 10.5 did I begin to experience the "trash" issue.

Then your problem is different then this one. Start up a new thread describing your issues (so you don't hijack this thread). Most likely its a permissions bug. Also check out this thread:

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=6458719#6458719