Apple TV vs. Mac Mini

My question today really follows on from a (now unrelated) question I asked a few days ago on this same forum.

I'm trying to establish what the difference between the following two setups is, both in terms of hardware, software and functionality 'issues':

1. Apple TV plugged into my plasma's media box via HDMI
2. Mac Mini plugged into my plasma's media box via DVI (-> HDMI) and audio into my AV AMP via the optical out

I'm keen on the second of these two solutions simply because the Mac mini is a more fully fledged machine that I can treat as my main machine (i.e. use it as my main iTunes hub, the machine where I purchase and download new music, sync my iPod, stream music to Airport express etc).

I'm assuming that via FrontRow on the mac mini I can effectively replicate what the Apple TV can accomplish as well as have the benefits of it being an actual machine.

Can anyone think of any drawbacks to this approach, things I might gain or lose either way?

Many thanks in advance,


Paul

Apple TV

Posted on Jan 16, 2008 6:44 AM

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Jan 16, 2008 9:24 AM in response to 666Heretic

the mac mini can take wireless n. the macbook, macbook pro, and imac (except one) all have wireless n as long as they have core 2 Duo chips not core duo. The mac pro started having them in early 2006 (i think). since the mac mini was the last to get the upgrade to core 2 duo, i assumed it would be the last one to get the wireless n. but it still doesn't have it!

I bought an apple tv when they came out and had endless trouble with it. In the end i bought a mac mini to stream from. This is hooked up as described to a small LCD tv via hdmi and optical audio. The apple tv is in the living room hooked up to a massive tv. If it was one or the other i'd have the mac mini.

The wireless speed problem? well my mac mini has wireless 'n', 2GB of RAM, a superdrive and a 7200rpm low heat low noise Hard Drive. These four upgrades cost £170 on top of the £399 for the mac mini. I'm happy with that. works a dream.

Also if that's a bit too much, disregard all of the upgrades i did and use gigabit Ethernet to attach to a gigabit router, the cost of a cable and your network can stay on 'n' speeds.

FYI - 802.11n is not gigabit and never will be, regardless of what marketing people call it. Wifi n/n1 is 270/300 mbps (27/30% of 1Gbps) and thats connection speed, not actual transfer speed which is much lower.

I used the n upgrade kit for a mac pro on my mac mini and now have 270mbps.

Jan 16, 2008 9:41 AM in response to myitcv

If you are tending towards the mac mini, then that's likely the way to go, it can more or less do everything he tv can do and of course more as well.

It's downfall is it behaves like a computer in a situation you want an easy to use gadget. We originally had 4 tv's and used my wife's mini in the kitchen in the same way you want to, in actual fact nobody used it all that much and simply went into the other room to watch the tv. Now we have added another tv, everyone is quite happy watching it again.

Jan 16, 2008 11:46 PM in response to HotinPlaya

This is interesting - the sync back feature looks great. So this now leaves me with another question:

Is this software upgrade only for Apple TV or does it actually represent a new version of Front Row, i.e. all of these new features (video rental, TV show purchase) will be available via Front Row on the Mac Mini?

I would hope that it's the latter.

Jan 17, 2008 4:11 AM in response to myitcv

I'm still debating whether to buy an Apple TV (maybe get a 40GB from the refurb store if they are eventually blown-out). I currently have a Mac Mini 1.25GHz PPC as a reasonable media PC. It drives 720p via DVI OK, even with its puny, but just enough, 32meg vid card. make sure you have min 1GB ram, I use the 40GB HDD and transfer the media via USB stick or 802.11g from the 802.11n Airport extreme. I'm still using Tiger on the Mac Mini media pc. The newer Mac Minis, even a core solo would I'm sure also be fine, and mostly likely much better for the optical audio. My Mac Mini was a €399 promo that was discounted just before the core solo/duo release.

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