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Q: MacBook Pro constantly losing wireless connectivity

Hi folks,

Well, I read a ton of posts regarding MacBook Pro wireless networking issues before buying a wireless router last month, and now it's "me too."

Our iBook has no problems whatsoever with dropped connections, but the MBP loses access every few minutes or so. I usually follow a sequence of "Turn AirPort Off"/"Turn Airport On" to cycle the connection, and sometimes this works. It's an almost constant problem. This is a standard configuration MBP.

The router happens to be a D-Link DIR-615, but I've seen enough posts about problems with the Airport Express and MacBook Pros to know it's not the router that's the problem--it's the MacBook Pro (I notice a few similar posts even on the first page of this forum).

Dear Apple: what are you doing about this issue?

Has anyone else somehow resolved this problem? If there was only a couple of posts about this issue, then it might be written off as problems with a specific router, or specific users. But when there's a ton of messages all complaining about the same problem, then it's more likely a significant defect that needs to be fixed by the manufacturer, and won't be fixed by standard troubleshooting procedures of the mundane kind (Tech Support Theater: "Is your router turned on?").

Dear Apple: where are you?

MBP, Mac OS X (10.4.11), non

Posted on Jan 20, 2008 8:45 AM

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  • by PK Tjo o Tjim,

    PK Tjo o Tjim PK Tjo o Tjim Aug 18, 2012 6:48 PM in response to Slawesome
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    Aug 18, 2012 6:48 PM in response to Slawesome

    Disabling "n" mode on the router has improved reliability for me. The version of OSX running doesn't seem to matter for me, nor does the chipset.

  • by Schickler121,

    Schickler121 Schickler121 Aug 21, 2012 1:40 PM in response to ffredburger
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    Aug 21, 2012 1:40 PM in response to ffredburger

    I'm also having a similar issue. It's been a recurring problem with increasing frequency for the past four months or so. The first time it happened I didn't know what to think, so I rebooted and thought no more of it. Since then it's progressed to the point of losing my internet connection every few minutes. It seems to happen more often when my MBP gets too hot or if I move it around at all during internet use. At this point in time, reboots only help 40% of the time or less. The majority of the time when I reboot, my airport status bar says "No airport card installed." If I restart again and check my status bar I see that my airport is off, and I'm not able to turn it on. Anymore I'm rebooting my system four or five times in a row to get connection to the internet. This is a ridiculous problem for such a high end machine.

  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Aug 21, 2012 1:51 PM in response to Schickler121
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    Aug 21, 2012 1:51 PM in response to Schickler121

    Schickler121 wrote:

     

    I'm also having a similar issue. It's been a recurring problem with increasing frequency for the past four months or so. The first time it happened I didn't know what to think, so I rebooted and thought no more of it. Since then it's progressed to the point of losing my internet connection every few minutes. It seems to happen more often when my MBP gets too hot or if I move it around at all during internet use. At this point in time, reboots only help 40% of the time or less. The majority of the time when I reboot, my airport status bar says "No airport card installed." If I restart again and check my status bar I see that my airport is off, and I'm not able to turn it on. Anymore I'm rebooting my system four or five times in a row to get connection to the internet. This is a ridiculous problem for such a high end machine.

     

    Take it into your Apple Store for repair; it sounds like a hardware component is failing if the OS is failing to detect the AirPort hardware upon reboot.

  • by mac2classic,

    mac2classic mac2classic Aug 26, 2012 7:38 PM in response to ffredburger
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    Aug 26, 2012 7:38 PM in response to ffredburger

    All,

     

    I noticed some people have had their MBP replaced by apple... I am wondering if this is an option for me. My MBP is about 2yrs old but this issue has crept up after 1.5 yrs. It is the only issue I have ever had with any mac I have ever had, but its a major one.  I have 3 other laptops in the house that have no issues with connectivity ( XP machine, 2 Win7 machines).  Can someone else throw out some of the details of their experience... warranty or no warranty, time frame of ownership so on so forth... thanks in advance.

  • by toddwaddington,

    toddwaddington toddwaddington Aug 27, 2012 3:27 PM in response to Video Technique Ltd
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    Aug 27, 2012 3:27 PM in response to Video Technique Ltd

    This worked for me.  I was about to rip out the rest of the very few hairs on my head.  Thank you for this post.

  • by ekremers,

    ekremers ekremers Aug 28, 2012 3:47 AM in response to mac2classic
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    Aug 28, 2012 3:47 AM in response to mac2classic

    Hi Mac2classic,

     

    I had my MBP replaced under apple warranty, it was only 6 months old. The only advice I can give is do not delay contacting them about this... I know apple only gives you 1 year warranty, but in many countries the law states that you are entitled to 2 years. So you may be able to use that to persuade them.

  • by lnoble,

    lnoble lnoble Aug 28, 2012 11:35 AM in response to toddwaddington
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    Aug 28, 2012 11:35 AM in response to toddwaddington

    Hi, What did you do that work? 

  • by laurenmay1,

    laurenmay1 laurenmay1 Aug 28, 2012 7:44 PM in response to mac2classic
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    Aug 28, 2012 7:44 PM in response to mac2classic

    They replaced mine when it was 1 1/2 years - but I had a year worth of calls to Apple, so my troubles were well documented. 

     

    Also, for a year Apple blamed ATT.  After Apple Care had done everything, they told me it was my 'service provider'.  (And for 6 months II had ATT rewire inside and outside, trench in street, and about 30 calls with techs trying everything.  Finally ATT told me I could take my business elsewhere.  I was floored !  (As Apple could have been liable for reimbursing ATT if ATT knew about this site, the well documented troubles, and the great number of people having problems.)

     

    My MBP was replaced in one day:  Apple Customer Service called the store closest to me and told me it would be ready when I got there.  I got an upgrade too. 

     

    All this sounds great, but I would have been much happier if my original MBP had performed normally.  The aggravation and toll on my home business was so ridiculous, I almost sought legal help.

     

    Call Customer Service, give them a detailed history, and don't back down.  Squeeky wheel.

     

    Good luck.

  • by ericfromyelm,

    ericfromyelm ericfromyelm Sep 6, 2012 6:06 PM in response to ipod touch 4g
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    Sep 6, 2012 6:06 PM in response to ipod touch 4g

    No way, save your money and buy a good pc instead. I should of return my mac when I still could. From day one it's been a battle just to keep the dam thing working right. I think mac is having growing pains and have lost control of the quality standards.

  • by jamied1901,

    jamied1901 jamied1901 Sep 7, 2012 1:36 AM in response to ericfromyelm
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    Sep 7, 2012 1:36 AM in response to ericfromyelm

    ericfromyelm - spot on!! I'm on my 4th MBP in 14 months and all have suffered.

     

    I hate the argument "well its only a small percentage", well who says the others know or want to comment on this post?

     

    It's a problem Apple need to address, their reputation has been tarnished in my eyes and those who know of the problems I have had.

  • by jamied1901,

    jamied1901 jamied1901 Sep 7, 2012 1:50 AM in response to jamied1901
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    Sep 7, 2012 1:50 AM in response to jamied1901

    My last visit to the Apple "Genius" (a term used as loosely as they come!!), when I advised of this post, was met with a "don't believe everything you read on the internet"!! Both condescending and evidence of defensiveness that shows Apple have no interest in fixing this issue

  • by PK Tjo o Tjim,

    PK Tjo o Tjim PK Tjo o Tjim Sep 7, 2012 7:39 AM in response to jamied1901
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    Sep 7, 2012 7:39 AM in response to jamied1901

    While I am not going to defend Apple here by any means, I have had 100% success for over a month now just by disabling 802.11n on my router.  I specifically have a late 2010 MacBook Air still running 10.5(.7?).  (I decided to not update until something actually makes this better.)  Three different routers (Motorola, Asus, and Actiontec FiOS) that were all problematic before have no issues with N disabled.

     

    It seems to clearly be a software/driver issue on Apple's end, and it is a shame that people have been fighting with this issue for over four years.  It appears as though they only check against their own equipment and Cisco equipment, but that is purely speculation.

  • by ekremers,

    ekremers ekremers Sep 7, 2012 8:14 AM in response to PK Tjo o Tjim
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:14 AM in response to PK Tjo o Tjim

    Unfortunately, disabling N doesn't work for everyone, I guess you're in luck .

     

    And of course, the problem arises that when using the laptop in library, university, hotel, all these places should disable n on their router just for you? I don't think that's going to happen.

     

    There's a hardware issue with your laptop, apple needs to fix or replace it!

  • by laurenmay1,

    laurenmay1 laurenmay1 Sep 7, 2012 8:58 AM in response to PK Tjo o Tjim
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:58 AM in response to PK Tjo o Tjim

    ekremers is correct.

     

    This is a known problem that Apple has not fixed.  What works for one may not work for another.  Also, what works for one, may not 'hold' (you will find it's a band-aid that wears out).

     

    You say you haven't updated - that is no solution !  You are risking other problems by not updating.

     

    THIS IS A MAJOR PROBELM THAT APPLE HAS NOT ADDRESSED.

     

    The only fix is to call Customer Service and demand a new MBP.  They will give you one.

     

    Presto:  your probelms are over.

  • by JohnPan,

    JohnPan JohnPan Sep 12, 2012 12:48 PM in response to laurenmay1
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    Sep 12, 2012 12:48 PM in response to laurenmay1

    Replace the IO80211Family.kext kernel extension from 10.7.4 by the version used in 10.7.3 (4.1.2). This will fix the issue.

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