colors off in Preview when viewing JPG's with sRGB profiles

I have a 30" Dell monitor and my display preferences are set to use the calibrated profile for it. When I view JPGs images in any color managed application such as Preview the colors are horribly off. They are kind of dull, unsaturated, pale. JPG's that don't have sRGB profiles show up fine.

I can fix the problem in photoshop by opening the image and then doing a save for web which strips the profile information off of the jpg.

If I use sRGB as my monitor's profile colors are consistent across all applications but the problem is the colors are really bad. Extremely over contrasty and very dark.

What's going on with my color profiles?

Mac OS X (10.5.1)

Posted on Jan 25, 2008 6:51 AM

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Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM in response to Joe Gordon

The problem is what I see is NOT what I get. It's as if something with color profiles is messed up. I shouldn't have to change my monitor off it's color profile just to make the photos look better in different apps. I only have a problem with color managed apps. It is doing something funny and not integrating with my monitor's color profile correctly.

Jan 25, 2008 2:23 PM in response to Joe Gordon

The monitor is calibrated correctly. I've spent over 100 hour now trying to find a solution. I understand how color profiles are SUPPOSED to work. Fact is, it's not working like it should. I shouldn't have to choose "DELL3007WFPHC" as my working color space in photoshop to make the image display correctly. On my laptop I can set the working color profile to sRGB, adobe RGB, or Color LCD and it displays correctly.

Jan 25, 2008 5:18 PM in response to topmodelphotography

Hi topmodelphotography ..

If you're keen about running the right profiles - please don't mess up the way you do. The sRGB profile that you're using is showing a narrower color space (value 0-16 of blacks are out). The sRGB profile is mainly used for consumer monitors in the cheap end where contrast conditions are worse that expensive and professional displays to present contents in a similar way across manufacturers. If you should use any predefined color profile, please use Adobe (1998) profiling.
best practive is calibrating your monitor with a good calibrator and use these profiles.

In System Preferences you should set up the calibrated profile and the same goes for all Adobe apps under Color Settings.

Useful reading concerning Color Profiles:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=321382&sliceId=1

Your issue with Preview is most likely due to erroneous setup in System Settings. otherwise try and disable Dithering in Preview.

And don't use Save for Web if you intend to keep at least a minor part of your colors in your images. Use TIFF's where possible (without 'upgrading' images from compressed formats such as JPEG's, GIF's, etc.)

useful reading about Image compression:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_compression

Hope this answers some of you questions. 😉

Jan 28, 2008 3:02 PM in response to topmodelphotography

topmodel, first off I'd say don't apply generic sRGB or Adobe RGB profiles to your monitor as a partial solution. As you found out, they aren't useful in describing the output capabilities of modern displays. They should really only be applied to image files.

I suspect you have a corrupt or otherwise bad color profile for your monitor. You can check if your custom Dell profile is corrupt by opening Colorsync Utility, going to Profile First Aid, and clicking Verify.

Did you create the calibrated profile using a hardware colorimeter like the Spyder3 or eye1? If not, it's worth saying that sometimes a manufacturer's own "custom" profile is crap. I use a LaCie 319, which came with a profile that was supposedly designed for this model but instead makes everything very foggy. My previous NEC's profile didn't work at all.

Are you running a multi-display setup? I've been having color problems with mine since upgrading to Leopard. The Apple apps (preview, quicklook, safari) no longer distinguish between my two displays in terms of color. Colors show up as unnaturally muted and less contrasty on my laptop display if the external display is set as default in Colorsync Utility. Switch defaults and opposite happens: oversaturared on the desktop display. I'm all ears if anyone's run into the same problem.

Feb 12, 2008 6:55 PM in response to iMapple

I think I am having the same issue as iMapple. When looking at images in preview or safari on my external monitor they are over saturated and have a green cast to them. All other programs including Safari can view them just fine. Any ideas as to why?

I have been using Eye-One Display to calibrate my monitors and it worked just fine with 10.4.

Help would be appreciated!

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