Unresponsive Keyboard and Trackpad problem FIXED/RESOLVED

I've been dealing with this issue since early December myself.
I purchased the MBP in November and had nearly a month with out any issues.

I spent nearly two hours on the phone with Apple Care via a specialist trying to diagnose the problem yesterday.
He did mention that they believe neither the 10.5.1 update or the MBP 1.1 update were to blame for occurrence of this issue. (I remain slightly skeptical)

Let me give you a short rundown of my problems and what I've done to help resolve the issue. Hopefully it'll help some of you.. or help me (with some of everyone else insight) if it happens again.

The symptoms:
keyboard and trackpad become unresponsive.
The problem is intermittent but often is completely unresponsive at start up.
USB mouse and keyboards have full functionality.

Kernel panics often occur as well. Usually this occurs just after the keyboard and track pad experience extreme intermittent "on and off" periods.
The only option is to do a hard-restart which my or may not resolve the unresponsiveness.

Things I've addressed in my particular case:

1. The battery recall issue - my battery (6N745288YFTA) is OK.
2. Resetting the PMU - no change.
3. Re-installing both the 10.5.1 and MBP 1.1 updates - no effect.
4. pressing the Function + S key at start up and running /sbin/fsck -fy The HD is said to be OK
5. I just finished an Archive and reinstall of Leopard = this seems to have fixed the issue for the moment. I have not run the Updater to bring the OS back to it's fully updated form yet.


The Archive and Re-install DID NOT WORK.
Even upon downloading and installing the 10.5.1 and 1.1 update, I'm still back at square one.

I've also been experiencing these phantom keystrokes to the eject key and backlight myself lately.

I've resolved to wait for the 10.5.2 official release to see of that helps... If not then I'll break down and send my machine in for service.

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Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B05
SMC Version: 1.16f10
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled

THE SOLUTION:

This is a HARDWARE problem!

After playing around with removing the battery and noticing that this often returned functionality to the keyboard I surmised that this had some sort of physical aspect.
Sure enough, there is a section of copper colored tape/wiring exposed in the batter slot that is slightly bowed where it's smallest.
When I depressed this with my finger tip on this portion to basically flatten it out flush against the housing; I found that all functionality was restored!

You can see the portion in the picture below.

User uploaded file

I haven’t had any problems AT ALL since I took a piece of napkin and taped it down to sustain pressure on this portion of bowed tape/wiring.


I have yet to call AppleCare to see what they suggest I do.
I will post a reply here when I hear their suggestion.

Mac Book Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 667 MHz SDRAM

Posted on Jan 27, 2008 3:18 PM

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Mar 26, 2014 4:27 PM in response to _LB

Dear LB, I am thinking you are putting your question in the wrong thread. This here thread is getting to be a kind of garbage can/melting pot for every keyboard/mouse/trackpad issue or so it seems.

Originally, it was about a specific MBP problem which involved a generic MBP trackpad and keyboard flatcable failure.

Nevertheless, to accomodate you:

Deselecting the box in Mouse settings has no effect whatsoever.

Have you tried restarting your Mac after altering something in Preferences? Take it from a Mac oldtimer: manytimes this does the trick!

Good luck to you!

Mar 26, 2014 9:48 PM in response to _LB

Here's a few options for the scrolling problem:


Trash the system prefs found in your user Library that relate to the appledrivers for mouse and bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Restart or log out/in, then if all OK, empty Trash.


There is a Terminal command I found that will supposedly reverse the scroll for all input tools (use at your own risk):


From a Terminal window:


sudo defaults write /System/Library/User\ Template/Non_localized/Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences com.apple.swipescrolldirection -bool false


Or you can try the free app called Scrollreverser. No personal experience with it but worth a shot if nothing else works.


https://pilotmoon.com/scrollreverser/

Apr 10, 2014 2:14 PM in response to Kris Selvig

I see this thread has been long and winding, but hopefully I will find the solution I've been looking for here since the thread has recently been revived.


I own a 2009 silver MacBook (which became MBP the following year, I believe) running OS X Mavericks, and all of my important documents are backed up using Time Machine. My 250GB HD is also manually partitioned (no Boot Camp) to run Windows 7 on about 60GB of HD space. I mainly use my Windows 7 partition for PC gaming.


A couple months ago, my internal keyboard started behaving erratically. It remained responsive, but the keys began performing strange tasks, for example, pressing the "D" key would minimize my browser window, the "A" key would open Finder, the "Option" key no longer functioned at startup, etc. The trackpad also began to behave somewhat erratically - using the trackpad to open an app on the dock would instead select the app in Finder, and I would then have click the app in Finder to get it to finally open.


I bought a cheap Logitech USB Windows keyboard to test the issue. Most of the time, the Logitech keyboard works fine for simple typing, but it was still frustrating because the Alt key would not allow me to access the boot screen on my Mac, so I was unable to switch between Operating Systems (apparently this is an unresolved issue for some using a Windows USB keyboard with a Mac). On rare occasions, the Logitech keyboard would also experience the exact same malfunctions that the internal keyboard had been experiencing - the "D" key minimizing the browser, etc. I have been able to correct this issue with the USB keyboard by fiddling with the "Windows" key. (Not sure how relevant this is, but I thought it was a weird coincidence.)


I left my MacBook alone for about a week, powered it off, and upon coming back to it discovered that I could again use the "Option" key to access boot options on startup, and the other keys were also functioning normally again.


Fast forward to a few weeks later, and the same exact problem is back again. I decided to go into my Mac and change my startup disk to my Windows partition and just work from there, but then I didn't have access to all of my iTunes music and documents on my Mac, so that was still frustrating (I did use a free trial version of MacDrive to access them for a while and transfer some things to a flash drive). I also couldn't use my "Option" key, so there was no way to go back into OS X and change my startup disk again.


Then Windows crashed, and I was forced to power off my MacBook and use an old HP laptop for about a week. Today, I went to power on my MacBook just to see - and VOILA! - I could again use the "Option" key to access boot options and gain access to OSX, re-partition and reinstall Windows, etc. Now the internal keyboard and trackpad seem to be functioning normally once again. But I'm afraid that it's only a matter of time before the issue reappears and I'll have to again spend hours trying to fix or work around the problem.


I've tried running command lines and have also tested every other solution I've been able to find online, but nothing seems to work. I've also removed the battery, but I don't think the wire trick applies to my later model MacBook.


I've been told that I could need a new top case, but my internal keyboard was never really unresponsive - it was simply malfunctioning and performing random tasks. In fact, I'm using my MacBook to type this right now and everything is functioning normally. Plus, I can't really afford a new top case right now.


So if anyone knows what else might be causing this issue, please let me know ASAP.


Thanks in advance for any help you are able to provide.

May 1, 2014 8:09 PM in response to Steve Eugene

This may be kind of a blast from the past for folks at this point, but I have to say: the index card trick works. (Originally found at http://jasonrobb.com/v2/2008/11/24/macbook-pro-unresponsive-keyboard-trackpad-so lution/.) My early 2008 model 15" Macbook Pro, which I fully expect to live to the ripe old age of 10, recently started losing keyboard & trackpad functionality simultaneously at unpredictable intervals. This was happening about 2-3 times a day and was pretty disruptive to my work/etc. I tried the index card thing over a week ago, and it hasn't happened again since.


(Extra note for anyone having the same problem: I pinpointed the two-finger trackpad right-click as a cause of some temporary loss of functionality, so I disabled that function before trying the index card fix. It didn't solve the problem, but I do believe that it lessened the frequency of permanent functionality loss. As a superstition, I've kept this feature off and re-learned to right-click with the Control key.)

Dec 26, 2016 4:14 AM in response to Steve Eugene

I saw this solution six years ago and decided to give it a try only with a tiny piece of powerful duct tape. Unfortunately didn't consider the 'napkin part' so no pressure was actually added to the ribbon.


Man, I've just tried it again (w/ a piece of folded paper), and no more freezing, no more struggle.


6 years of struggle, poof! Vanished... You have no idea the relaxing feeling and gratefulness. Way to go Steve!

Feb 17, 2017 5:34 AM in response to Steve Eugene

I had exactly the same problem as yours and tried almost everything: SMC, PRAM, etc.

When I read your post, I didn't have any screwdriver to open my macbook and take out its battery.

However, after trying awhile, I could fix it by this way:

- Connect your Macbook to an external keyboard. If your external keyboard works fine, you may have a chance.

- Then shut down your Macbook.

- Press and hold "shift" on your external keyboard. Then turn on the Macbook while holding "shift".

- We are actually just trying to reboot the Macbook in safe mode. But instead of using the "shift" on the internal keyboard, which shouldn't work as the internal keyboard is unresponsive, we are doing so on the external keyboard. Note that it may take awhile.

- Then check your internal keyboard and trackpad now. If they both work fine, then just shut down your Macbook and turn it on in normal mode.

Hope this helps 🙂 .

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