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20734 Views 261 Replies Latest reply: Apr 19, 2008 9:48 AM by gbeberman RSS
  • dmoraATX Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2008 8:36 AM (in response to gguida)
    One thing i should mention, being an ex-Apple employee, when they are this enigmatic and slow on an update that most would thing would be inconsequential like a minor patch, it generally means there's a larger update coming down the pipe, rather than just a simple bug fix.

    the 10.5.2 update will patch the issues of new cameras not being recognized, however that was just seeded to developers, so i would assume no 10.5.2 patch till after the first week of Feb or there about.

    *Keep in mind that's just speculation and there's no official answer unless it comes from the mouth of Apple.*
    Mac Pro C2D 2.66ghz x2, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 5gb ram 500gb HDD
  • Dan Donovan Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 8:49 AM (in response to dmoraATX)
    Exactly, right now Aperture is at the mercy of the 10.5.2 OS update and not the PMA schedule. From online reports, this update large and is taking longer than normal. However, it seems to be getting close. Here is a link to an article on its status:

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/01/leopardbug_fix_list_swells_to_130_with_latest_mac_os_x_10_5_2seed.html
    Mac Pro / 2.66mhz, 4gb ram, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • David Hassler Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:05 AM (in response to Dan Donovan)
    There is no reason for attaching the RAW updates to the massive 10.5.2 upgrade. Apple has released updates in the past specifically targeted at updates for camera support, and one should have been released over a month ago.

    I've read rumblings that 10.5.2 may not be ready to go until March. Is it worth waiting that long? Adobe released support for the D300 about 80 days ago.

    How can a "professional" photo application not support the top bodies from Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Olympus? It's an embarrassment, and the meaningless tidbits that Mr. Schorr has been putting out are only serving to create more ill will.
  • SierraDragon Level 4 Level 4 (2,665 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:26 AM (in response to David Hassler)
    ...the meaningless tidbits that Mr. Schorr has been putting out are only serving to create more ill will.

    I disagree. Every little bit of info helps and I appreciate it. Unfortunately the delay in RAW support seems to speak most loudly.

    -Allen Wicks
    17" C2 MBP 3 GB RAM; DP G4 tower; Nikon D2x, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • Greg Loskorn Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:32 AM (in response to Joe Schorr)
    Thank you Joe, good news. *Please please please please*, I hope the update includes RAW support for the the Sony A-700. It's been sitting around my house gathering dust because Aperture can't read it's RAW files, I really want to use it RAW.
    A-700, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • Sarge_ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:34 AM (in response to SierraDragon)
    Stay tuned: somewhere, sometime, we don't know when, but something, and by something I mean we don't know what, is coming. It's something exciting... shhhh. Now go back to sleep. Sweet dreams...

    I hope this was comforting.
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  • Tom Aellis Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:36 AM (in response to SierraDragon)
    I disagree as well, I am/was a pretty upset customer and I can say, with a bit of ease, that 90 percent of the boards comments were for at least to come out and say SOMETHING. Well they/he did.
    Mac OS X (10.4.9), AE 802.11n -Few ATV's
  • paul robertson Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:45 AM (in response to scott nichol)
    Nikon produces an API for raw conversion, if Apple isn't on-board with that, then shame on them- having to wait three months for camera support is inane when we're talking professional cameras. Worse yet, there's no indication that anyone in any position of authority at Apple is hearing the cries.

    Paul
  • Jeremy Henderson Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:45 AM (in response to SierraDragon)
    SierraDragon wrote:
    ...the meaningless tidbits that Mr. Schorr has been putting out are only serving to create more ill will.

    I disagree. Every little bit of info helps


    But we haven't actually been given any information, other than that, at some point between now and the heat death of the Universe, Apple plan to release an Aperture upgrade. How much use is that?
  • Tom Aellis Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:49 AM (in response to Jeremy Henderson)
    Know you are sure they hear us.
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  • astirusty Calculating status...
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:49 AM (in response to Greg Loskorn)
    "the Sony A-700. It's been sitting around my house gathering dust because Aperture can't read it's RAW files"

    If I were you, I would find an alternative application vs. leaving the A-700 around to gather dust.
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Network 23 Level 6 Level 6 (11,510 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:52 AM (in response to paul robertson)
    paul robertson wrote:
    Nikon produces an API for raw conversion, if Apple isn't on-board with that, then shame on them- having to wait three months for camera support is inane when we're talking professional cameras.


    Wrong answer. If I am understand correctly what I've read, the Nikon SDK is a black box where you only get to pour data in one end and take the result out the other end, without allowing the kind of pro-level detailed control that you would want to do with Aperture. Adobe gets the same question on their boards, but it appears that both the Adobe and Apple teams need to reverse-engineer those cameras to give us the control we want because Canon, Nikon, etc. do not wish to provide info that detailed about their proprietary formats and only provide a SDK conversion that is "blind."
    PowerBook G4 15" Aluminum and Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • pano Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:51 AM (in response to Jeremy Henderson)
    What about 10.4.x users? Are they still on bord or do i have to upgrade to 10.5.x (which I´m not willing to)
    MacPro, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • David Hassler Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:51 AM (in response to Tom Aellis)
    I should have said that it's building ill will *for me*. When Joe first came out and said that they were ACUTELY aware of the pressing need for new RAW support, I thought they actually meant it. PMA seemed like a nice milestone to meet that goal, and now that we are on day two of PMA with only another statement that holds no meaning, as it does not contain even a rough timeframe of when new camera support will be available ("soon" doesn't really help much).

    I, for one, am tired of this song and dance, and will be moving my library to an application that has some actual support behind it.
  • astirusty Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:52 AM (in response to Rich Hayhurst)
    "We (Aperture/Apple loyalists) will be more productive as we will be able to quickly deliver any media, from any app, and any file to any device."

    Yeah, that is assuming your camera's format is supported...
    Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.8)
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