Tungsten T3 and iSync vs. Palm Desktop

I'm transitioning my Palm Tungsten T3 from a Dell to my iMac. A bit confused about best sync choice. It seems that iSync will allow me to sync the device with iCal and other Mac applications (which ones?). However, I've sync-ed the Palm with the Palm Desktop on the Dell, and it has met my needs. From your experiences, what do you recommend as the best way to sync on the iMac? iSync to Mac apps or use Palm DT? Links to install/config tips would be appreciated. As background, I also use SplashID, and will have to download/install it for iMac as well. And any advice on how to do the first sync so that data on the handheld is not lost? Thanks!

iMac (Intel) 24" 2.4gHz, 2GB, Mac OS X (10.5.1)

Posted on Jan 31, 2008 8:00 PM

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Feb 1, 2008 3:14 AM in response to RogerBaum

Hey, I hope you love your new iMac as much as I love mine. I used to sync my Treo 650 and now 755p with PalmOS using the Palm Desktop. However, last night I switched to Mark/Space to try to resolve an issue I was having and it's a little better. http://www.markspace.com/

Palm Desktop and HotSync manager for Mac haven't been updated since 2005. But, the Missing Sync thing that MarkSpace has is very fresh and has many more support messages that are helpful. My HotSync worked, but it missed a lot of the details (like categories, or would put "Work" email into "Home" email, or if I had a Work Address in AddressBook it wouldn't transfer to Palm unless I changed it on to a Home Address. Little annoying things like that. But, the Mark/Space works much better for me. And, the Mark/Space thing had a helpful Setup Assistant, and it doesn't require you to install the Palm Desktop (just to get HotSync)

One final note! If you search these Discussion Forums for "Calendar Sync" You'll find a lot of people are struggling with getting their calendars to sync with the mac after the most-recent Mac OSX update. Contacts do fine, but not Calendars. So, be sure to check that your calendars are actually syncing after you've transitioned. From the help at Mark/Space, my Treo was having an issue if the Birthday Function was turned on in iCal Preferences. I turned off the Birthdays in Preferences and BAM my Calendar syncs. Hopefully you wont' have any of these issues!

Good luck! I hope this helped! 🙂

Feb 1, 2008 2:31 PM in response to Eric Santamaria

Eric,

Thank you for the info. Palm pretty much stopped updating the T3 and DT software when I bought it. I mentioned to my office IT guy today that I had just posted a query on the Apple discussion board, and before I could tell him about your response, he said, "Mark/Space!" I also use SplashID, and Mark/Space's Missing Sync claims to work with Splash and other 3rd party software as well. So I think I'm going to give it a shot.

Yes...I love my iMac. Bought the 24" 2.4 and the 13" MB 2.2 in November, and I have been VERY happy with them (both connected to internet via Airport Extreme Base). Still have the 2004-era Dell (which still is my home base for Palm sync), but my wife uses it most of the time. I'm a hobby (and occasional freelance) photog, and I was compelled to buy the 24" when I visited the NYC Apple Store last fall....my photo albums looked stunning on the 24" display.

Thanks again for the help.

--Roger

Feb 3, 2008 12:54 PM in response to Eric Santamaria

After ten days of heartache and experimentation, I can now Sync almost perfectly between Entourage 2008 under 10.5 and my Palm Treo 650.
The only exception is any changes to contacts made on the Treo make it back to Address Book but not to Entourage.
In all other cases, any new or altered event syncs perfectly between the platforms, and any new or altered contact made in Entourage syncs to the Palm.
Here’s what you have to do, and don’t leave anything out. You need to get “Missing Sync” from Mark/Space.
You need to start with a clean Entourage database. So, spent as long as it takes to remove all the duplicate events, etc. and then back up the database so you don’t to go through the mess again!
Next step is to remove all the Palm Desktop OS files, trash them, and reboot. You will be syncing using Mark/Space conduits entirely, therefore Palm is irrelevant, and in fact, as it works in the background, slows down the CPU. Do not trash any Palm Document files. (you might be able to, but I didn’t want to risk losing backups, etc)
Set up Missing Sync so that only the Mark/Space Contacts and Events conduits are checked “on”. Don’t check any other contacts, calendar, Date Book etc. conduits. Also check any conduits that are specific to you. You can also check the Call Log and SMS conduits if you like. This way you will have a copy of your Treo call log on your Mac.
Open iSycn ONCE only, and ensure that you do NOT have the “Enable Palm Syncing” option checked. You will not be using iSync to sync to your Palm – you will be using the Missing Sync.
Open Entourage preferences, and uncheck in Sync Services all the boxes.
Reboot.
Open it again, check the boxes this time, then check the option to over right iCal and Address Book.
Within a minute or maybe less, all your data from Entourage is now accurately in iCal and Address Book. Do NOT delete or uncheck any of the probably four calendars in iCal at the moment. The only one that is relevant is “Entourage”, and when you enter a new event on your Palm, you must categorize it as “Entourage”. If you don’t get into that habit, it will be synced to the “unfilled” calendar in iCal and never make it back to Entourage. (I suspect that is also the issue with contacts going back to Entourage, they don’t make it passed Address Book).
You are ready for your first sync to the Palm.
In the Missing Sync, just choose the Mark/Space Contacts conduit. Highlight the Contacts coduit, then choose the settings, and select “Overwrite handheld with desktop data”.
Start the sync from your Treo – best to use a cable. You could use Bluetooth, but it’s slower.
After the sync, (keep your fingers, eyes and legs crossed during the process) everything should be perfect.
Then try the Mark/Space Events conduit. Same thing, Overwrite Handheld with desktop data.
Should be fine.
Now do a complete sync. Only check the Mark/Space conduits that you need, and any special conduits relevant to your situation, such as “AA Flights”, Zagat Guide, etc. etc.
Experiment.
Enter new contacts or events in Entourage and Address Book and iCal. You will see that they all sync back and worth very quickly.
Sync to the Palm. They will all be there.
Enter a new event or alter an event in Palm. New event ensure it is categorized as “Entourage”.
Sync – it will be in Entourage. Once again, the only issue is a new or altered contact does not make it back to Entourage.
Hopefully either Apple or Microsoft will address this issue within the next couple of weeks.
Hope this works for you!

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