13 Replies Latest reply: Nov 17, 2005 7:45 PM by mlehmann
David Dennis Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
Could someone please explain, in words comprehensible to the layperson who is just getting into music creation, what the differences between these programs are?

They seem like they do essentially the same thing except that Logic Pro has more instruments and features.

Would I benefit in any way by getting Logic Pro instead of Soundtrack Pro to compose music? I've been composing music with the Apple Loops in Soundtrack Pro and really like it, so I'm wondering if Logic Express or Pro would make things even better, or if they would be a waste of money.

The music is being composed for a haunted house venue where it's going to create an atmosphere, not where truly great music is needed. In other words, it's probably fine if it's nothing but artful combinations of Apple loops, but I'd like to make them as artful as possible, if that makes any sense.

Many thanks for any thoughts.

D
  • David Slater Level 6 Level 6 (18,770 points)
    If you are using loops only then STP should be fine
    but Logic Pro is a very powerful tool as well
    it has surround capabilities as well as a whole WHACK of Midi instuments (somthing STP doesn't do)

    BUT just using loops then STP will be fine

    DAVE
  • Mike Connelly Level 4 Level 4 (1,785 points)
    STP is absolutely not intended for music creation, it's obviously created with post for video in mind. You can do some music stuff with it, but it's a very awkward tool for music.

    If you want to do music, you're better off getting Logic Express for the same price, it's much more suited for music. And if you're only doing simple looped music, just get Garage Band, it looks like it has all the loop features (and possibly more music features) than STP for a fraction of the price.
  • Joe Hunter Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I agree with Mike. STP is not really meant for someone that has just music in mind. Logic is a much better program for that. STP is built for those with video in mind.

    I, personally, prefer STP over Logic as I found Logic to be incredibly user un-friendly. STP is amazingly easy to use and works wonders when switching between it and Final Cut Pro.
  • mlehmann Level 4 Level 4 (3,200 points)
    Yes, Logic is better for music creation. However, if you don't do midi, STP is great for music. For the same price as Logic Express, you get better plugins and better audio editing. Usually, I create with Logic Express and I edit and mix with Soundtrack Pro.
  • $ta$h Level 4 Level 4 (3,840 points)
    Usually, I create with Logic Express and I edit and mix with Soundtrack Pro.

    hmmm

    thats strange

    I thought i was gonna hear the other way around, like
    Usually, I create with Logic Express and I edit and mix with Logic Express then i import i export to Soundtrack Pro.

    stash
  • Freddie Woolfe Level 4 Level 4 (1,175 points)
    Form my experience, STPro is a great program, but for what you're looking for, it's not going to work. GarageBand will do all the Apple Loops, although Soundtrack comes with more cinematic ones I think... To be honest, once you get into it, you will want to do more than just build loops, even if it's just for fun. Making music can be very addictive indeed, and there are always new things that you will want to do!
  • Athar Saeed Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
    Same here ....

    I use logic express or sometimes even garageband to make the basic track then open it up in Logic express and mix the final thing in ST pro .... Works great !!
  • Lamont Dennis Level 2 Level 2 (250 points)
    STP's lack of MIDI is the killer for me.
    I love STP and would like to use it for all my Music Making Endeavors but since it does NOT have MIDI/Virtual Instrument support... it's No Good to me as a DAW. (but I don't think that's what it was made for)

    If you're into making music you'll definitely want to explore the world of MIDI and VSTi's. Unless of course you can afford to buy a good Synthesizer with tons of sounds. Then you'd just be able to record that in as Audio. VSTi's just open up a whole nother world in my book.
  • David Slater Level 6 Level 6 (18,770 points)
    STP is NOT desgined for MUSIC creation (why do people keep thinking that)

    STP is an EDITING progam totally different then GB/LE/LP

    you can use STP as a sample editor for programs like LE/LP that are more music creation then audio editing

    for POST audio work (which is what it is designed for) it is GREAT, very fast and smooth on my system as well

    DAVE
  • i5m Level 4 Level 4 (1,440 points)
    STP is NOT desgined for MUSIC creation (why do people keep thinking that)


    Why? I assume because Soundtrack was a music creation program. So it's natural for people to assume Soundtrack Pro is for music creation as well.
  • tekarts Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    The current version of Soundtrack Pro is good for just about nothing. It's too unstable to use reliably. Try Cubase for serious music/audio composition.
  • Freddie Woolfe Level 4 Level 4 (1,175 points)
    Wow. That was fairly sweeping. Don't use STP cos it's good for just about nothing as it's too unstable to use reliably. What on earth makes you say that? Many film studios (including the one I work for) has STP integrated into its workflow. So no, that is not true at all, and there is no point in saying so.
    Try cubase for serious music/audio composition. Well, yes, you could try Cubase, or you could try Live, Logic, ProTools, Digital Performer, Sonar, Nuendo, or many other apps capable of the same thing. To be honest, you could quite possibly create a song on STP. I see no reason why not. For me it's not the greatest as it lacks midi, but there is no reason why you would get any better sound from Cubase as you would from it. It has the same audio engine as Logic as far as I know.
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to rant, but I see that it's your 2nd post, and you obviously have very little constructive to say. The idea is that you have to qualify your replies, or noone will bother listening to you.
  • mlehmann Level 4 Level 4 (3,200 points)
    Well said Freddie. And speaking about unstability, Cubase has no lessons to give to anyone!