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Q: Wallstreet G3 PB 233MHz, OSX possible?

I have an "old" G3 laptop without a CD drive. Someone put a ZIP drive in instead. It has OS9.2.2 installed. Will this Mac be able to run any version of OSX? Also, how would i install OSX or even OS9 without an optical drive and no usb or firewire ports? Ethernet? G3 has 288megs of ram.

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lenn

iMac Core Duo 1.83/1gig, Mac OS X (10.5.1), PB 12"/768ram, iPod Touch

Posted on Feb 5, 2008 6:38 PM

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  • by Niel,Helpful

    Niel Niel Feb 5, 2008 6:47 PM in response to lenn5
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    Feb 5, 2008 6:47 PM in response to lenn5
    Will this Mac be able to run any version of OSX?


    You can use XPostFacto to run Mac OS X on that Mac.

    Also, how would i install OSX or even OS9 without an optical drive and no usb or firewire ports? Ethernet?


    With the Mac OS 9 CD inserted into another Mac's optical drive, share the CD over Ethernet, and then install it from the PowerBook. Using Ethernet to install Mac OS X requires access to a Mac OS X Server machine.

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  • by lenn5,

    lenn5 lenn5 Feb 5, 2008 7:05 PM in response to Niel
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    Feb 5, 2008 7:05 PM in response to Niel
    Niel,

    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Do you know where i can find some instructions on how to use ethernet to install a fresh copy of OS9 on the PB?

    thx
    lenn
  • by Niel,Solvedanswer

    Niel Niel Feb 5, 2008 7:12 PM in response to lenn5
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    Feb 5, 2008 7:12 PM in response to lenn5
    Click here for setup instructions.

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  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Feb 5, 2008 7:24 PM in response to lenn5
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    Feb 5, 2008 7:24 PM in response to lenn5
    Both the left and right modules on the Wallstreet are removable. You can pop out the Zip module and install a Wallstreet-compatible CD module in the right bay. The left bay is not big enough for a CD module.
  • by krowmagnum,

    krowmagnum krowmagnum Feb 7, 2008 8:09 AM in response to lenn5
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    Feb 7, 2008 8:09 AM in response to lenn5
    The Wallstreet G3 can run up to OS 10.2.8 without XPostfacto, any OS after that you would need XPostfacto. I wouldn't go beyond OS 10.3 on that Mac and OS 10.2 would be almost as good.

    You can either buy a used Wallstreet CD-ROM from eBay or LEMSwap Google group or use an external SCSI CD-ROM (Mac bootable) with a Powerbook SCSI cable. The square port on the back of your G3 is the PB SCSI port.

    288MB of RAM will be enough for OS 10.2 but it's not going to be as fast as OS 9 on that Mac. But it will be usable and speed is relative to what you are used to anyway.
  • by tonio,

    tonio tonio Feb 9, 2008 11:33 AM in response to lenn5
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    Feb 9, 2008 11:33 AM in response to lenn5
    Hy,

    I have a PowerBook G3 WallStreet PDQ with 10.2.8. The SCSI doesn't works ! In the information system => SCSI, I shows "no information" as if there were no SCSI port. I put XpostFacto and 10.3.9 with the same problem ...

    Thanks
  • by jpl,

    jpl jpl Feb 9, 2008 7:21 PM in response to tonio
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    Feb 9, 2008 7:21 PM in response to tonio
    toniomac,

    I also have a Wallstreet running 10.3.9 and the System Profiler reports "no information found" for SCSI. There is limited support for SCSI under OSX but my SCSI Zip drive worked fine under 10.2.4. Disk Utility sees it plus my Apple System Profiler sees it not as a SCSI device but as an ATA Bus device.

    If you have a particular SCSI device in mind, we should be able to find out whether it works or not.
  • by krowmagnum,

    krowmagnum krowmagnum Feb 10, 2008 11:24 AM in response to tonio
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    Feb 10, 2008 11:24 AM in response to tonio
    Have you tried any SCSI devices ? Or is it just not showing in the Apple System Profiler ? If so, what ?

    (It's best to start a new thread when asking a question because it may be missed by a lot of people)
  • by tonio,

    tonio tonio Feb 24, 2008 12:49 PM in response to krowmagnum
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    Feb 24, 2008 12:49 PM in response to krowmagnum
    I try with

    - 2,1 Go Lacie HD
    - 4 Go Lacie HD
    - read/write CD-R
    - read/write CD-RW
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Feb 24, 2008 6:36 PM in response to tonio
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    Feb 24, 2008 6:36 PM in response to tonio
    PowerBooks with internal IDE drives may not supply Termination Power onto the SCSI cable. Some device on the SCSI Bus has to put Termination Power onto the SCSI cable, or the terminator will not work and the Mac may Hang at startup.

    One of those drives may have a strap to supply Termination Power onto the SCSI cable.
  • by jpl,

    jpl jpl Feb 24, 2008 7:28 PM in response to tonio
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    Feb 24, 2008 7:28 PM in response to tonio
    toniomac,

    I have used a SCSI Zip drive on my Wallstreet with just the correct HD-30 SCSI cable. However, on the back of the drive is a switch for "Termination ON and OFF". If your devices have such a switch, make sure termination is ON if it is the only SCSI device connected.

    Also make sure the SCSI switch on the back of the device is not set to '0' or '7'; those are used by the computer.

    Are you starting up correctly? Connect the SCSI device > turn on the power to the SCSI device > start up the powerbook.

    Do NOT hot-swap any SCSI device; all power must be turned off first.

    Are you sure the SCSI cable is good? You want an HD-30 SCSI connector for the powerbook SCSI port that has 29 pins (pin #30 is missing; pin #30 is for SCSI Disk Mode only).

    Try to get the SCSI HDs working since they should be the easiest; the optical drives may need drivers like Toast or PatchBurn.

    Here is an article on SCSI devices:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=13611
  • by tonio,

    tonio tonio Feb 25, 2008 10:44 AM in response to jpl
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    Feb 25, 2008 10:44 AM in response to jpl
    I have this : http://images-libres.tuxfamily.org/IMG/jpg/hdi30-800.jpg put on "SCSI" and not "dock"
    then
    Lacie 4 Go : n°2, in 30 pin, out 50 pin
    CD-R : n°3, in 50 pin, out 50 pin
    Lacie 2 Go, n°4, in 50 pin, out 50 pin
    CD-RW n°5, in 50 pin, out 50 pin

    I always turn on the HD (or CD read/write), and then the PB G3.


    Thanks
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Feb 25, 2008 11:21 AM in response to tonio
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    Feb 25, 2008 11:21 AM in response to tonio
    Where's the Terminator on that list? It's supposed to go on the last empty connector, but you did not list it.
  • by tonio,

    tonio tonio Feb 28, 2008 12:47 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Feb 28, 2008 12:47 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
    Yes, sorry it's that :

    {quote:title=tonio wrote:}I have this : http://images-libres.tuxfamily.org/IMG/jpg/hdi30-800.jpg put on "SCSI" and not "dock"
    then
    Lacie 4 Go : n°2, in 30 pin, out 50 pin
    CD-R : n°3, in 50 pin, out 50 pin
    Lacie 2 Go, n°4, in 50 pin, out 50 pin
    CD-RW n°5, in 50 pin, out terminator 50 pin{quote}