Is Quark 6.5 opening fonts on its own?

Hi Mac Fool,

If you did a default install of Quark, then it also installed the Suitcase auto activate plugin for Quark. It may be opening fonts that are listed in your H&J and Paragraph settings.

At this stage of the game, there are only one default style; Normal. This is in Helvetica, which is part of the system fonts anyhow. The H&J's don't have any option to hold font data.

Darn. I knew that was a long shot as Helvetica is always the default, and only font listed after the initial install.

I'm new to Quark 6.5, so I'm wondering if it might have something to do with that 'project' thing.

Good question. I've never really paid much attention to the 'project' vs. 'document' way of handling Quark files. The only change I made was to replace Helvetica with Times New Roman. Simply because I prefer that font under the names of images I'm proofing (using the Picture Box script of Place Name). Give a look in the regular preferences under Font Mapping. There's a check box at the top for "Specify Default Replacement Font". If it's on, and the font specified is one you normally don't have active, that could be the one Quark is insisting on opening each time you launch the program.

Other than that, I don't know why it's trying to open fonts that are not yet in use.

Hello Mac Fool,

Excuse me for butting in... a few curious thoughts...

First, do you have the latest version of Suitcase, i.e., version 11.0.4?

Just installed Quark 6.5...so far I've found a series of 'improvements' that rank 6.5 way below version 4."

That tells me that you were running Quark 4.x with Classic. Yes? If so, were you running ATM Deluxe or Light with it? Now, is Classic running (or on) when you are using Quark 6.5? If so, then it might be possible that ATM starts up with Classic and certain fonts are set to open when it launches. If this is the case, then you might try quiting Classic, then launch Quark 6.5 to see if that resolves the problem.

We have the minimum possible fonts in the system and library folders, and the users folder is pretty much empty, in order to keep performance at maximum and RAM usage to a minimum. We keep about 3000+ fonts in a folder that we create ourselves, and manage them from there with Suitcase XI.

With that many fonts, are you on a network? Two other places to look for active fonts is (a) HD//Network/Library/Fonts/, and (b) HD//System Folder/Fonts/.

Hope this helps.

Hello again Mac Fool,

I think LilyLC's got it. I don't even have Classic on my Mac, so I didn't think of that. One of those "out of sight, out of mind" things.

Anyway, it makes sense. Quark 4.x will only list fonts in the OS 9 System Folder>Fonts folder and any you activated with Suitcase that is not a .dfont. Quark 6.x, on the other hand, will list every font in the OS X Fonts folders and the OS 9 Fonts folder, whether Classic is running or not. So you normally always see more fonts in 6.5 than you will in 4.x.

Well, it sounded logical. 😉

Then I couldn't tell you why Quark 6.5 is calling extra fonts to open before you've even done anything other than start the program. I've tried opening various new projects in 6.5 and my list of open fonts in Suitcase X1 don't change.

I made very few changes to the defaults after the initial install. The only one I did that would affect fonts in any way was to change the Normal setting in the default Character Style Sheet. Clicked the Edit button and changed Helvetica as the default font to Times New Roman (which I also always have loaded as a Type 1 PostScript font through Suitcase X1). That's pretty much it.

Mac Fool,

Kurt’s post about changing Quark’s default font triggers a light bulb.

Check your "Normal setting in the default Character Style Sheet" to see if your default font for Quark triggers a particular Suitcase X1 “set/collection of fonts” to open. If so, you may want to change your default font to one that is not a part of a set, or in Suitcase X1, change the preference of how fonts of a set open.

While I did see that there was a new auto activation plugin from Extensis, I didn't think an Adobe CS2 plugin could possibly fix something for Quark. Weird, but glad it fixed things for you.