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intraweb917 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Is there any way to get .ODT open office files to open in Pages 08?

MBA Lemon, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
  • Magnus Lewan Level 4 Level 4 (3,655 points)
    Not directly. You can open them in TextEdit and save them to doc with loss of a fair amount of formatting. Or download NeoOffice or OpenOffice.
  • Stephan R Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Oh yes, I also would like to see Pages (and the whole iWork package) supports OpenDocument (as it is ISO certified it is a major format)
  • jboyzh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Quicklook in Leopard can already show the full contents of an ODT file, while TextEdit shows only text, and Pages is still unable to handle OpenDocument files at all. Hopefully we don't have to wait endlessly...
  • singingwolfboy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I agree with this comment. I am planning on going out and buying a copy of iWork as soon as it supports OpenDocument -- and not until then.
  • Stephan R Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    still on status "not answered" Hello Apple, wake up
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (76,010 points)
    still on status "not answered" Hello Apple, wake up

    No one is going to answer you. These forums are for user-to-user tech help only. If you want to tell Apple something, use the feedback channel. (But they never provide info on whether or when new features will be added to apps via any channel.)
  • Bentley_91 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Just for interest Quicklook simply opens a thumbnail image stored in the odt file (odt is pretty much a zip file) and doesn't actually 'render' the document
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)

    As far as I know, the ODT format was certified after the delivery of iWork'08.

    So, don't be surprised that the program doesn't recognize it.

    You just may ask that the next revision will do that.

    Here we are end users trying to help other end users. If you want to "talk" to Apple engineers, use the available official channel:

    _Go to "Provide Pages Feedback" in the "Numbers" menu_, describe what you wish.
    Then, cross your fingers, and wait _at least_ for iWork'09

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mardi 13 mai 2008 10:46:03)
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,915 points)
    I had been using OpenOffice 2.x under Windows and neither Neo or OpenOffice (incl the new Aqua 3.0 beta) run as well or as smoothly.

    With 1000s of documents, and many are 400-800 pages, both of the above use 2 of 4 cores, hit 100%, but really don't run well.

    Just found that TextEdit can open and save as .odt though, and save as well.

    I wanted to use Pages '08, but have to upgrade again?

    But at least if TextEdit has support, then it seems more likely than not, a future update could very well bring support for ODT.

    Fingers crossed. Or OOo 3.0 will run as well on OS X as it does on Vista.
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,915 points)
    Add Nisus Writer Express 3.0 to the list of programs that properly open ODT files.
  • Henrik Holmegaard Level 3 Level 3 (575 points)
    Oh yes, I also would like to see Pages (and the whole iWork package) supports OpenDocument (as it is ISO certified it is a major format)

    The ISO Ballot Resolution Meeting on standardisation of OOXML has a two month pending period before acceptance. Prior to the ISO BRM the Editor of the standardisation of ODF published a plea that OOXML not be rebuffed since a rebuff would impact important parts of ODF. In other words, there is no finished framework to implement at this point.

    Best wishes,


  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)
    The hatter wrote:
    Just found that TextEdit can open and save as .odt though, and save as well.

    TextEdit was revised since the adoption of the ODT format, Pages wasn't on this feature.

    I wanted to use Pages '08, but have to upgrade again?

    It's the same thing for those which bought a HD_DVD reader some days before the format was dropped.

    _I have absolutely no info_ but my guess is that the next iWork version will use a modified file format matching the ODT standards with the enhancements allowing it to keep all the already available features.

    It would be better, for users and for the engineers than trying to maintain two different codes, one for iWork only documents and one for ODT only ones.

    Building this mix of format would need some efforts which would justify the cost of a major revision.

    Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 15 mai 2008 15:49:17)
  • jboyzh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    MS just announced OpenDocument support in Office 07 coming next year.

    ODF in iWork is a matter of time now...
  • kepardue Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    I agree. ODF is gaining traction in the US and even more so abroad. Microsoft's announcement that it will support ODF in its upcoming Service Pack means a number of positive winds are blowing in favor of Apple supporting it. Thinking through some of them:

    1) Apple has a history of supporting open standards where it bolsters its business and reduces the complexity on its own developers,

    2) it would be FAR easier for Apple to implement than native support for OOXML (heck, it’s even easier for Microsoft to implement in their OWN product than OOXML),

    3) no more dialogs asking, “Do you want to save this in iWork ‘06 format, iWork ‘08 format, iWork.... ” What’s good for one is good for everyone.

    4) OpenDocument is extensible so they could implement such features as Numbers’ multi-table-on-a-single-sheet feature (not sure about the viability of this one),

    5) it will make Apple not look like they’re drinking Microsoft’s Kool-Aid, while, when native ODF support is added to MS Office next year, Apple will be totally compatible and competitive with not just most Windows users but Linux/open source advocates too, and

    6) Apple obviously has expressed interest in heating up competition with Microsoft on the desktop since the disaster called Vista. If Apple ever hopes to bring iWork to Windows, joining iTunes and Safari, they’ll need to have a document format that’s not based on bundles. A .pages file is just a folder as far as Windows is concerned.

    iWork has evolved a LOT in its short life. We probably haven't seen native open/save in other formats because of this. It truly does seem like just a matter of time before all the additional holes are plugged and we'll see native Save and Save As in other formats. It would have been a mistake for Apple to have anything like this before now for the public backlash when it screwed up companies' documents. But, ODF is a 800 page spec with several different validation suites to test against, which is much simpler than a 6000+ page spec that hasn't even been published in final form nor implemented, which is much simpler than a proprietary binary spec that's mostly guesswork to figure out (and God knows how many pages it would be if it WERE published).

    Personally, I work for a company that maintains a number of training manuals in MS Word binary format. I've convinced the powers-that-be that ODF is a good idea to implement and have been working to convert them. But OOo 3.0 beta is slow and dogged even on my Mac Pro, not to touch on its dated and Windows 2000-like interface. It's hard to make fonts look bad in Pages... if Pages would support format perfect rendering of ODF files (there are many ODF validations out there for this purpose) then I could fluidly work in the cross-platform environment in which I work. True, native ODF support in iWork is the golden calf of Apple for me. I know. I need a life.
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