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Panasonic HDC-SD9 and iMovie 08 - summary of current issues

There are a few posts here, but I thought I'd summarise my experiences so far (I have a PAL model):

The camera is detected fine by iMovie 08 and everything was recorded at HA1920 (the highest quality).

1. 1080/25p with 5.1 sound - imports to iMovie but video plays back at the wrong speed
2. 1080i with 5.1 sound - import attempts crash iMovie
3. 1080/25p with 2.0 sound - imports to iMovie but video plays back at the wrong speed
4. 1080i with 2.0 sound - import attempts crash iMovie

I would have thought scenario 4 would be effectively the same as a HDC-SD5 (supported by iMovie 08) but clearly there are some issues here to iron out.

For now, I'm using Voltaic to convert to MOV files but lose the 5.1 sound (although I can workflow it back in again).

I'm still extremely pleased with the camera!

CD MacBook, 24" C2D iMac, CD Mac Mini, DP G4 Powermac, AppleTV, iPhone, Mac OS X (10.5.2)

Posted on Feb 25, 2008 2:42 AM

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Mar 14, 2008 12:05 PM in response to jayhawaii

I made few new observations. First, Volatic unfortunately also has some limitations. It created complete garbage when I tried to convert 24p files. Can anyone confirm this? It seems to work fine with interlaced files. Second, the converted .mov files look great in iMovie08 but they are blurred in iMoveHD. Does the older (better?!) version not support 1080 files? I talked to Panasonic support today and they repeatedly claimed that SD9 files are exactly the same as SD5 files which are compatible with iMovie08. How is it possible?

Mar 14, 2008 12:26 PM in response to tcynk00

Panasonic's engineers have tried to tell me they are the same, but it cannot be true (obviously).

For one thing, the SD5 is 1080i and the SD9 is 1080p, so that's a biggie right there.

I have no problem using the well-voiced solution of only using the HA 1920 24p setting with FCP 6.0.2 and iMovie ’08 (although, the video speed issue is present with iMovie, but not with FCP). But is I try anything else, like the “medium” quality setting that also lets you select 24p, HG 1920, crashola!

Panasonic engineers are supposedly getting back to me next week. Will report anything new.

P.S. I'm P.O.'d that when it writes files to the DVD for “backup” it changes the file extensions ever so slightly so that FCP cannot recognize the files. I needed to manually change all of the extensions after copying the files to my Mac from the DVD to import. If you simply copy the files from the HD9, when mounted via USB, you can then use that file structure to import. But you can't burn a DVD from those files unless you use the HD9 or Panasonic’s less-than-stellar software with your Windows-side of your Intel Mac.

Mar 16, 2008 10:13 AM in response to 1984 Mac Guru

SD5 does have optical image stabilization and works great. Still, the ability to have 5 microphones (if they are external) is a plus, and the ability to do 1080p is a plus, although it may take the hardware and software a while to catch up with this capability.

If I was buying mine 6 months later, I would go for the SD9, and hope that Panasonic and Apple would sort out the issues soon.

Mar 16, 2008 10:19 AM in response to AppleMan1958

Neither camera has the ability to use external mikes...the one major drawback. These models also don't have S-Video out...minor bummer because they have component out and HDMI out, which are phenomenal...but my DVD recorder only has S-video IN and FireWire IN, so I cannot "download" to a DVR for simplicity.

Using Panasonic's software on the PC side of your Mac just reminds you of how bad everything is for Windows. Nobody seems to ever "get it."

Mar 16, 2008 10:32 AM in response to Michael Butler2

The camera is great and there is a workaround. Convert your files to .mov using Voltaic. Once the files are converted you can import into iMovie 08, edit and export to Apple TV or whatever format you prefer.

One issue is that iMovie08 is a little slow importing and exporting these large digital files using my iMac 2.16ghz machine with 2gb or ram.

Does anyone know if video processing is a lot faster with a MacBook Pro or the latest iMac at at 2.5 ghz? I am considering a new machine to edit these big video files. Also considering Final Cut Express and wondered if this program would process the digital files faster than iMovie08.

Links to video processing comparison tests would be appreciated.

Panasonic HDC-SD9 and iMovie 08 - summary of current issues

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