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Panasonic HDC-SD9 and iMovie 08 - summary of current issues

There are a few posts here, but I thought I'd summarise my experiences so far (I have a PAL model):

The camera is detected fine by iMovie 08 and everything was recorded at HA1920 (the highest quality).

1. 1080/25p with 5.1 sound - imports to iMovie but video plays back at the wrong speed
2. 1080i with 5.1 sound - import attempts crash iMovie
3. 1080/25p with 2.0 sound - imports to iMovie but video plays back at the wrong speed
4. 1080i with 2.0 sound - import attempts crash iMovie

I would have thought scenario 4 would be effectively the same as a HDC-SD5 (supported by iMovie 08) but clearly there are some issues here to iron out.

For now, I'm using Voltaic to convert to MOV files but lose the 5.1 sound (although I can workflow it back in again).

I'm still extremely pleased with the camera!

CD MacBook, 24" C2D iMac, CD Mac Mini, DP G4 Powermac, AppleTV, iPhone, Mac OS X (10.5.2)

Posted on Feb 25, 2008 2:42 AM

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Apr 12, 2008 5:37 AM in response to DJH2007

On it's own Perian 1.1 is a great app which provides additional video support for QT. I've also heard that it has resolved SD9 AVCHD issues in iMovie08 and FCP, so I personally would give it a go and see if it helps all of you SD9 users. You've got nothing to lose, plus it will enable you to watch virtually any video format through QT - priceless.

Apr 12, 2008 4:11 PM in response to mpearce100

I was able to import 24p video in Final Cut Express tonight with audio and video synced perfectly. I tried the same video in iMovie and the video portion ended before the audio, so there is still an issue there. I had hoped not to record in 24p mode. I don't get what it is all about...what does it do better than the 60i standard mode?

-John

Apr 15, 2008 2:20 AM in response to benbernschneider

For me it kind of works too.

I have the latest leopard, latest fce4 and latest Perian (1.1).
To import, I have to go in the menues, wait 10 to 20 seconds until it recognises my SD card or the camcorder, and then import.

But I can't get FCE4 to run a video without "rendering it", which takes some time. And the procedure has to be done again and again for every single change.
So I decided to import these imported clips in imovie 08, and it works flawlessly! I just click import in imovie. It just takes some time to create the thumbnails previews.
Then, the edition is very fast.
However, to export the video in full hd h264, I'll need to be VERY patient. I exported a 3 minutes video at 17mb/s, and it took 45 minutes!!

But it's still unacceptable to have to use FCE to import into imovie, and the format has to 1080p (24).


You'll also need a lot of disk space to import the clips (cause they're uncompressed).

Apr 18, 2008 10:42 AM in response to benbernschneider

Just another frustrated new owner of a SD9. Could someone take a moment and publish their proven work arounds in a step-by-step fashion? I'm new to Apple and a lite video user so I assumed all I would need is iMovie 08. I'm not even sure what FCP and FCE are. Also, what is the $30 program some were mentioning early in the thread that seems to import the video. Is there any degredation of quality to use it?

Thanks from a newb.

Apr 18, 2008 12:15 PM in response to Walman339

Firstly:

FCP = Final Cut Pro
FCE = Final Cut Express
Voltaic ($30 program) = loses 5.1 sound but I can't see a difference in quality (bitrates are roughly the same)

My workflow is:

Copy the MTS files from the SD card to somewhere on your local drive or external drive. The MTS files are stored here:

SD Card\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM

Once copied, fire up Voltaic, drag them in Voltaic, set the preferences (720/1080 or iMovie/Final Cut) and click Start.

You'll need a lot of disk space (they'll be 4 or 5 times bigger than the MTS files).

Once they've converted you can drag/drop into iMovie and edit them.

Apr 18, 2008 11:29 PM in response to Michael Butler2

Thanks to everyone for the helpful info on this thread. I too bought the SD9 in the belief that it would work 'straight out of the box' with FCE. Of course it didn't. I am now importing clips via Voltaic as helpfully suggested above and it is working fine so many thanks for the simple and clear instructions.

I am left with two questions that I can't find answers to and would be grateful for advice:

1 Having converted the clips with voltaic from mts to mov is there any loss of info or quality or is it the same data in a different format?

2 Is there any way I can use my SD9 as an input device to imovie or fce i.e. as an alternative camera to the built in isight ?

many thanks in advance for the advice.

Andy


PS Is there any evidence of Apple responding to mass campaigns of complaint ?They really should be supporting the SD9!!

Apr 19, 2008 3:50 PM in response to andyz1

Ok, I've read through this entire post after deciding today I want the SD9 over the Sony CX6EK as I was told the picture quality is better with the SD9. Also, its smaller which is great.

Only prob is - this **** imovie issue!!!!! unbelievable - come on Apple!

BTW, I wasn't sure if the CX6EK would have worked either.

will need to decide soon, its my daughters 1st birthday in 2 weeks!!

Panasonic HDC-SD9 and iMovie 08 - summary of current issues

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