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wacom and aperture 2.0

I am getting weird jerky behavior in the grid when I use my wacom tablet (ends up inadvertently reorganizing the order of the pictures)
thanks,
sean

g5 dual 2.3, Mac OS X (10.5.2), 6600, aperture 2.0

Posted on Feb 27, 2008 2:08 PM

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Feb 27, 2008 2:35 PM in response to sean ross

I have noticed that sometimes when I click on an image it tries to drag it when I move the pen. So far it has dropped the image while still close enough to it's original location that it doesn't move it, but I can see it being a problem. It seems like a matter of the processor being a little behind so by the time it registers a click the pen has moved so it performs a drag instead. It doesn't happen to me all the time. Mostly when trying to work quickly.

Mar 4, 2008 7:13 PM in response to Daemian

Roughly same problems:

1. Reordering of pictures when I click through them. The 'order by date' menu
item restores sanity but it's a bit confusing.

2. Retouch weirdness. The diameter of the brush is at minimum regardless of
which diameter I select. The movement of the pen is erratic and very slow when
I 'draw' with the brush. Things work perfectly with the mouse.

I use an Intuos3 on 2.0.1

/John

May 2, 2008 6:54 AM in response to mickr7an

Has anyone else noticed that the people having problems are on Leopard while the people who are not having problems are on Tiger?

The only one in this thread having problems on Tiger is running 10.4.6.

I primarily use the pen to paint masks in Photoshop preferring the mouse that came with the tablet for most other tasks, but I just tested my Graphire 3 Pen with A2 and had no problems.

I'm running 10.5.2 so that kinda kills my OS theory.

DLS

May 28, 2008 6:27 AM in response to sean ross

Hi,
I seem to notice similar issues.
I have just moved from a 3GHZ P4 PC with PS7.0 to Dual 3GHz iMAC24inch with 4G RAM and Aperture 2.1(?) pre-installed and using the Wacom Bamboo.

I'm disappointed in the slow and lumpy response when using the pen and retouch feature when viewing at 100%. It seems as though the refresh rate is about 2 times per second instead of the many 1000s per second. Dragging the pen seems to ask Aperture to edit the whole image in realtime. I'm a film guy so the 16bit per colour scanned images are 240Mbytes for 5400dpi. PS7 used to be much quicker. Aperture is OK if I'm retouching small single spots but lines or larger areas are not so impressive. Mouse use is smoother. Because of the lack of USBs on the back (only 3 need atleast 6) I have to use a powered USB2 HUB. If you put the keyboard through the hub it can't power the keyboard USB sockets.) Either way the speed of the pen is slower than expected. (I think this is also the case in MAC Ink tool which might mean an OS upgrade will fix?)

What can we do? Wait for improvements? Call Apple and ask for a speed up.

Also the lack of zoom other than fit and 100% makes it difficult to clean up a 7500x5000 pixel image as the little red rectangle showing the 100% zoomed in area is so small. A medium or large format scanned image would just be a single dot.

I need to read the manual etc but this is not quite the film pro's tool just yet, nearly there though. Grayscale images do not always show up correctly, black thumbnails etc. Very large hi-res 16bit/colour scans are used by us, not small 10Mbyte jpegs from DSLRs.

The file management/projects/album is good. I also like the tint tool for changing the magenta cast from the scans.

Colour management seems a little problematic to get a match between print and screen, but that is another big topic.

Regards, Lincoln(UK)

May 28, 2008 9:21 AM in response to sean ross

I had issues with the Intuos 3, then asked a fried for her Bamboo. The later works perfect, probably b/c the Leopard driver is very recent (May 5 2008), while the Intuos driver is 6 months old (Nov 2007). I think Wacom's team decided not to update the Intuos driver or is taking longer than expected.

I had erratic behavior with Intuos 3 on both: Aperture and Lightroom on my iMac 24 3HGz. So I am inclined to think it is related to the driver and not to Aperture or Lightroom.

May 29, 2008 5:29 AM in response to sean ross

Anthony,
Yes I think you may have found the problem. When I loaded the Wacom software etc the tutorial suggested trying the handwriting recognition in MAX OS X Leopard which I remember switching on. It will be the first thing I do tonight to switch it off. Hopefully that will speed it all up. I can imaging that it is slow if the OS is always trying to recognise writing on top of other commands.

Last nights upgrade to 10.5.3 helped a little but this should do the trick. If it does I'll report back and appologise to Apple for slating Aperture 2 for the wrong reasons.

Regards, Lincoln

Jul 1, 2008 5:16 AM in response to LincolnM

Hi,
I checked the Ink setup and handwriting recognition was already switched off so unfortuantely that is not the problem. With my system the Bamboo tablet is always on via a USB hub, and the mouse is only slightly better. I would probably need to talk with an Aperture apps person to understand if this is a driver issue or if it is an oversight in Aperture. We need to use the pen/tablet to avoid RSI in the hand from the mouse for such repetitive operations.

For single spots he response is sort of OK but for long lines it is slow. With film slide scans there are often black dust spots that need fixing. To be honest now I expect the slower response it is not so bad.

After about 4 separate spots Aperture seems to go away and re-make thumbnails so the 100% zoomed-in image goes fussy for about 5 seconds. It is as though some sort of auto save is on. Small cloning / retouch events seem to be treated as individual adjustments in the same way that say an exposure or levels adjustment is but you may need to clean up an image with 50 or more spots so you get interupted as it keeps doing an autosave and thumbnail correction even in full screen mode. Some rearrangement of the steps in the retouch proces may help.

For images from digital sensors the need to use retouch may not be so important as they should be clean, although sensor dust removal does seem to be an important topic for DSLR users and retuoch tool may be needed. For film users who make digital scans we definitely need a quick retouch system.

Also different zoom levels other than fit and 100% would be helpful for retouch as would a larger box for the pan of the zoomed in image. It makes it difficult to scan over the whole image looking for dust spots. With high quality lenses I do get image data at the pixel level (38M pixels from 35mm film) so I can't rely on general dust removal tools as they tend to remove genuine small spot like details such as distant birds flying etc.

Now I'm using the "exposure" adjustment more than "levels" as this seems to relate more closely to Photoshop levels adjustment that I'm used to.

Pushing the levels quarter tone slides in closer to the centre should do the same as a contrast enhancing S curve in Photoshop curves but I'm not tatally convinced, yet.

Regards, Lincoln

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