Logic's Linear Phase EQ vs. Waves Renaissance EQ

Hi all, I was wondering what your opinions were in regard to these two EQ's. Which one seems to be the way to go, and what are the differences between the two?

Are there some things that one would be god for over another, or is one just flat out better than the other for all things?

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Posted on Apr 2, 2008 9:18 AM

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Apr 2, 2008 9:32 AM in response to Nayonaise

I have never used renaissance so im not sure about the two, but in theory any linear phase eq is better than one that is not due to the mathematical algorithms that it use to process the audio.

The way it works is that most eq's are made to be processor friendly so they have a few downfalls which is a slight phase distortion , this can be heard most when moving a peak notch along the spectrum. Most of the time this won't really be noticed but linear phase eq's resolve this problem but will consume alot more CPU, as the maths is considerably larger.

My recommendations though are to use 2 eq's which i love by PSP. NEON (linear phase) NITRO (normal), plus another great plug is Vintage Warmer2. As me my friends say: if it moves Vintage warmer. Well there u are, a short answer to ur question.LOL Thanks Stu.

Apr 2, 2008 9:34 AM in response to Nayonaise

Very different beasts.

Linear Phase EQ is not intended to be a channel EQ; it clocks in high on CPU and latency and is intended to be "transparent". It's best suited to stems, mix bus, mastering (if you like it).

Waves Ren EQ is not linear phase, and has quite a "vintage" character with deliberate bumps in the EQ curve. It has a small CPU footprint and is well suited as a channel or mix EQ (if you like it).

Apr 2, 2008 12:03 PM in response to Nayonaise

It's not a question of it not being "supposed" to be used - they are very high CPU processors, and so they are not typically used on a per channel basis, unless there's a particular channel you absolutely need a minimum phase EQ on it.

It's due to the nature of the DSP processes involved.

"Transparent" in this case means minimum phase changes when you eq frequencies. Conventional EQ's all mess with the phase of a signal when you change the EQ curve.

Apr 2, 2008 2:49 PM in response to Jim Frazier

Yep, exactly - on sources where maintaining as much phase accuracy as possible is necessary, use of a linear phase EQ is desirable - Jim gives a good example.

Note - while I'm not an EQ snob by any stretch, I'm can't say the Waves RenEQ makes me giggle like a baby on sources. It's different to the Logic channel EQ, but I wouldn't say it's intrinsically much better... despite being a fan of many of the Waves Ren plugs (expecially the RenComp and RenVox) I don't reach for the RenEQ much...

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