What are these ports and how do I use them?? (PowerBook 2400c)

Yesterday I got what's undoubtedly one of the cutest and coolest Apple laptops ever made (right up there with the clamshell iBooks, in fact). It's a PowerBook 2400c/180 that's in perfect condition. The battery even still holds a couple hours worth of charge. This thing is so tiny I can carry it in my purse (I couldn't even do that with a MacBook Air)! It came with OS 8 and a ton of classic software I used to use when I was in elementary school (Clarisworks and Kidpix!!). Anyway, as much as I love the PowerBook, it has me utterly and completely confused. Apparently it was the inspiration for the MacBook Air in that it doesn't have any kind of disk drive built into it (originally they came with a matching external floppy drive, but I got the computer as part of a massive lot of used Apple laptops and there were no floppy drives to be found). There is no USB port, no ethernet port, no firewire port, and, even though there are two airport card slots in the back, nothing happens when I put an airport card in it (the whole networking thing isn't being helped by the fact I'm too young to remember how to use pre-X operating systems in any meaningful way). This is a fascinating design in that it apparently leaves no possible way to get information on and off the laptop without the original floppy drive.

On the back of the computer there are a handful of ports. One looks like a monitor port (it may not be, but that's sure what it looks like), two look like PS2 ports, but aren't (these two round ports actually aren't quite the same as each other either), and there's a big square one with holes for a lot of pins that my Mom said is something called a 'scuzzie' port (a what???). If someone asks, I can post a picture of the port configuration so you know what I'm talking about.

Basically what I need the PowerBook to do is network with my Lime so I can transfer documents and programs, and also somehow connect with my USB printer (oh, and load the printer software). I don't care about using it on the internet or anything like that.

iBook clamshell lime SE 466, Mac OS X (10.3.x)

Posted on Apr 8, 2008 6:18 PM

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Apr 8, 2008 7:51 PM in response to Hope To The Horizon

These pages may help explain that Mac -- Specs:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook/stats/macpowerbook2400c180.html

It is supposed to have a small Hard drive inside, but replacements are nearly impossible to find now.

Ports/Pinouts:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook/ports/macpowerbook2400.html

The ports listed are:

HDI-30 square SCSI port for drives \[pre-dates FireWire, and cannot be plugged "live"]
ADB round 4-pin port for older keyboard and/or mouse \[pre-dates USB]
Printer/Modem round 8-pin port for serial devices \[pre-dates USB]
HDI 15 Video port for mirroring the display on an external monitor.

There is some great networking software built into those older Macs. It uses AppleTalk/LocalTalk protocol using the serial ports, running at 240,000 bits/sec. You can use it to share files and share AppleTalk printers like LaserWriters.

Your lime iBook is too new to talk to it directly, but there are converter boxes that convert AppleTalk/LocalTalk to AppleTalk-Over-Ethernet that your lime iBook can do. These boxes were originally built to allow LocalTalk-only Printers to use AppleTalk-over-Ethernet networks, but it turned out they can support up to 8 Localtalk devices -- Macs and Printers in any combination -- for Printing and AppleTalk File Sharing.

Apr 8, 2008 8:21 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

The Apple Spec of the 2400c reminds me that those card slots you see are NOT Airport slots, but PCMCIA card slots. There are many different adapters, including wireless cards other than Airport cards, that may be useable there. There is also an InfraRed IRDA port, but your iBook does not seem to have one.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112416

Apr 8, 2008 10:58 PM in response to Hope To The Horizon

This is a fascinating design in that it apparently leaves no possible way to get information on and off the laptop without the original floppy drive.


Basically what I need the PowerBook to do is network with my Lime so I can transfer documents and programs


As Grant indicated, this PowerBook has PC Card slots. One very useful item is a PC Card adapter (such as this one) for CompactFlash memory cards, thus allowing CF cards to be used for file transfers. A USB card reader can be connected to a modern Mac (or PC) without a PC Card slot.

With some PowerBook computers, it is even possible to boot from a CF card (provided that the card has been reformatted to Mac and that an appropriate system folder has been installed).

Jan

Apr 9, 2008 3:03 PM in response to Jan Hedlund

Thanks for all the quick answers. I think the PC card adapter that lets you use a CompactFlash card will do what I need to do. I'm still not sure how to print from the PowerBook, though. This doesn't matter for the regular text documents (I can move those onto the iBook and print from that), but I won't be able to print documents created in the classic programs like kidpix (I guess I might have to live with that). Of course, now that I think about it, my printer's software only supports OSX 10.2 or higher, so I'm not sure how I was intending to print even if I could get them connected, lol. Oh well. I mainly intend to use the PowerBook as a word processor anyway. Maybe some of the old programs will have the option of saving to a format like PDF or JPEG that I can open on the other computers.

Apr 9, 2008 5:11 PM in response to Hope To The Horizon

Hi,

Using a USB printer would be difficult anyway. With a working wireless (or wired) network connection via a PC Card, and access to an Ethernet network printer, you should be able to find a solution, though. Another option would be to look for an old serial Mac printer (such as a StyleWriter II or 1200) and connect it to the MiniDIN-8 printer port of the PowerBook.

BTW, if you need any manuals, have a look here.

A shareware program called PrintToPDF could possibly be of interest, too.

Jan

May 24, 2008 5:04 AM in response to Hope To The Horizon

Think most folks have covered everything.

A few things I've found with my 2400c.

I hope yours came with more than 16mb of ram, reason for this is you can't install a system newer than OS 8.5. If you have 24mb or better you can install OS 8.6 which opens up the opportunity of running a wireless PCMCIA card. The one I'm thinking of is the Asante AeroLan whose installer requires 8.6 or better.

This PowerBook is a bit more challenging to open than some of the others, not impossible just needs a bit more work as the first screws you need to remove are hidden by plastic stick on caps.

The HD is ATA but a bear to dig down to.

Memory is the biggest headache as it requires EDO memory which is not the same as the strips used in later books such as the Wallstreet, Lombard or Pismo. I won't recommend trying these even though they fit as I was able to overheat one. Welovemacs aka Memoryten sent me the wrong strip the first time and I'm still waiting for the proper one!

A large CF card in an adaptor works great and that is what I use for installing the systems. (with limit being max internal ram).

The 2400c has built in Infra red networking so you might be able to network to your other laptop if it has it. This is rather slow though.

On the PCMCIA front, if you want to go 10T try and track down Global Villages PowerPort Platinum which is an ethernet 10T and modem adaptor card. Make sure you also get the dongle that comes with the card or it will be useless to you! You used to be able to download floppy images from their website for sw.

Good luck, it is a neat PowerBook.

Kevin

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