Is there any dot matrix printer that will work with a Mac???

My brother tells me he has just had to buy a new Windows PC because there is no way a Mac can print to a dot matrix printer - tell me it isn't so! I know dot matrix printers are very 20th century but his business requires him to provide delivery dockets in duplicate using carbonless paper so that both the customer and the driver each has a signed copy of the delivery docket - until now he has been a dedicated Mac user and is currently running OS X 10.4.11.

I'm hoping that someone might read this and tell me that there is a way to use his Mac with his dot matrix printer!

Any suggestions???


Cheers
Tricia

2GHz 20-inch iMac G5 (ALS), Mac OS X (10.5.2), 1.42GHz G4 Mini; 12-inch G4PowerBook; 500GB Lacie f/w hd; Video iPod; iPod mini;

Posted on Apr 14, 2008 3:47 PM

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Apr 14, 2008 4:18 PM in response to Patricia Henwood

Depends on the printer, i.e. the hardware connection (USB, serial, or parallel?) and software drivers. Does the printer vendor provide a Mac printer driver, or is an open-source gimp-print driver available for it? What model printer is it? Some printers just aren't Mac compatible. Even a new Windows PC might not be able to print to an old dot-matrix printer, if they lack WinXP or Vista drivers, depends how old you are talking about.

Apr 14, 2008 5:21 PM in response to Glen Doggett

Thanks for your very prompt response Glen - just spoke with my brother. The printer is an OKI Microline 184 Turbo 9 pin dot matrix printer. He bought it new about 2 years ago. It's connected to his computer via USB although it also has a parallel connection. He checked the OKI website and there are no Mac printer drivers available. Is this info of any use? However, this printer apart, do you know of ANY dot matrix printer that will definitely work with a Mac. My brother was told, point blank, that there are NO dot matrix printers that will work with a Mac - I found this a little hard to believe!

Cheers
Tricia

Apr 14, 2008 6:24 PM in response to Patricia Henwood

I use an Apple ImageWriter II and an ImageWriter LQ (both with the AppleTalk/LocalTalk option card) and a Farallon Ethermac iPrint adapter. This makes them AppleTalk-over-Ethernet Network printers, available to every Mac in the house.

There is a large collection of Open Source printer drivers that work with Mac OS X at:

http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting

a broad search of that site for "dot-matrix" yields 90 hits, including a driver for that printer:

http://www.openprinting.org/showprinter.cgi?recnum=Okidata-Microline_IBM_compatible_9pin

and several others including:

http://www.openprinting.org/showprinter.cgi?recnum=Okidata-Microline182

Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder

Apr 14, 2008 6:29 PM in response to Patricia Henwood

There were some drivers for the Apple Imagewriter dot-matrix printers, which would need a USB-to-serial adapter:

http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/MacOSX/imagewriter

http://lowendmac.com/macdan/2k0615mm.html

You could get an older out-of-production (pre-USB) Mac and print to an ImageWriter under OS 9, but you might not be able to run the business software on it that he needs to run. For running a business operation you probably want a printing solution that is supported out of the box rather than trying to tinker with getting some older out-of-production printer to work on a current model Mac.

Good luck and g'day!

Apr 15, 2008 4:48 AM in response to Matt Broughton

Hi Matt,

Thank you for giving such a detailed response. Obviously, what my brother wants to be able to do is to get his OKI Microline 184 Turbo+ to work with his Mac, however, neither of us is exactly sure how to go about implementing what you suggest. Am I right in thinking that he would first download the Foomatic_RIP.dmg and drag it to the Applications folder? Would the GhostScript app (gplgs-8.61-ub.dmg) also be dragged to the Applications folder? Then, download the Okidata compatible PPD file and drag it to ~/Library/Printers/ folder? I'm pretty sure that when I installed OS X 10.4 on his iMac I only installed the Printer drivers for his (Brother) laser printer. Given that there are no PPD files installed, would it be OK to drag the PPD file to the above location or have I missed something?

Then what? Is it as simple as opening Print & Fax in System Preferences and selecting 'Add Printer' or is it more complicated than that? What if the Mac doesn't 'see' the OKI printer? Is that the end of the story?

From memory, I thought there was a 'Printer Setup Utility' in OS X 10.4.x, but I'm now on 10.5 and it isn't showing up under Applications/Utilities in Leopard so perhaps I was mistaken.

I'm sorry if I'm asking all the very obvious questions here but I just want to get it right first time (if it's going to work at all). Thank you again for all your help.

Cheers
Tricia

Apr 15, 2008 12:31 PM in response to Patricia Henwood

Patricia Henwood wrote:
Thank you for giving such a detailed response. Obviously, what my brother wants to be able to do is to get his OKI Microline 184 Turbo+ to work with his Mac, however, neither of us is exactly sure how to go about implementing what you suggest.


Sorry about that. I work with this stuff on a daily basis and sometimes I think everyone does also.

Am I right in thinking that he would first download the Foomatic_RIP.dmg and drag it to the Applications folder? Would the GhostScript app (gplgs-8.61-ub.dmg) also be dragged to the Applications folder?


These two downloads come on a disk image. As Greg mentions, you double click on the disk image to "mount it" on your Desktop. A disk image is just a container. When you double click on it, the system acts like you inserted a CD-ROM or the like. In other words, Mac OS X will mount a pseudo disk. Included on these disks are installers which you have to double click to run. Also included on the disk image are some documentation and an uninstaller. You can use the uninstaller to safely remove the software if you no longer want it on your system.

Then, download the Okidata compatible PPD file and drag it to ~/Library/Printers/ folder?


No. You want to use the Library at the very base of the hard driver. You may or may not have to make some intervening folders, but you want the full path to be /Library/Printers/PPDs/Contents/Resources/en.lproj/Okidata-Microline IBM_compatible_9pin-okiibm.ppd.

I'm pretty sure that when I installed OS X 10.4 on his iMac I only installed the Printer drivers for his (Brother) laser printer. Given that there are no PPD files installed, would it be OK to drag the PPD file to the above location or have I missed something?


I think you are looking in the Printers folder of the Library of your home directory. You want to go to the Library folder at the base of the hard drive as I mentioned above.

Then what? Is it as simple as opening Print & Fax in System Preferences and selecting 'Add Printer' or is it more complicated than that?


That is pretty much it. You just add the printer in the normal fashion. The only catch is that the system will not be able to match the correct PPD to the printer. It will most likely default to a Generic PostScript printer. That is when you use the pop up menu to select the make and model. Look for the manufacturer Okidata and the model will be "Okidata Microline IBM compatible 9 pin Foomatic/okiibm (recommended)".

What if the Mac doesn't 'see' the OKI printer? Is that the end of the story?


If the Mac does not see the Oki printer, restarting your computer should solve the problem. Actually, all you need to do is to restart the printing system. You can do that by going to System Preferences -> Sharing. Toggle the printer sharing on and off. That will restart the printing system. During the restart process, the printing system will look again for any printers that are attached.

From memory, I thought there was a 'Printer Setup Utility' in OS X 10.4.x, but I'm now on 10.5 and it isn't showing up under Applications/Utilities in Leopard so perhaps I was mistaken.


You are correct. OS X 10.4.x used Printer Setup Utility. You could also get to Printer Setup Utility via System Preferences -> Print & Fax. In OS X 10.5.x, there is no application/utility Printer Setup Utility. You use Print & Fax System Preference.

I'm sorry if I'm asking all the very obvious questions here but I just want to get it right first time (if it's going to work at all).


No problem asking any question. If I missed something or you have any other questions/problems in setting up the printer, be sure to ask. If you don't get it right the first time, just describe what happened and we can find a way to fix it.

After all this, I hope that this printer driver will work for your printer. I tried to get a PPD to use the omni driver I mentioned in my first reply. I couldn't get a PPD to generate for that driver. The omni package looks like a Byzantine maze.

Matt

Apr 15, 2008 3:26 PM in response to Matt Broughton

Thank you for bearing with us on this Matt - it's 8a.m. here and I've just spoken to my brother - he will be away from the office all day today but will call me when he returns (he lives about 300 kms from me and nowhere near any other Apple users). It will probably be about 10 - 12 hours before he gets back so I will post again this evening.

In the meantime, you were right - I was checking (on my iMac) the Library/Preferences structure of my home directory, not the Macintosh HD/Library. When I do look at that (on my system which is running 10.5.2) the path is Macintosh HD/Library/Printers/PPDs/Contents/Resources/ but on my system I don't have the 'en.lproj' folder - there is, however, a both an 'fr.lproj' and an 'it.lproj' folder (perhaps this is because I did a custom install of my OS and installed both French and Italian languages (but unchecked all the others). It was so long ago when I installed OS X 10.4 on my brother's system that I can't remember what was installed, but it would have been the minimum to try and conserve hard disk space. If he doesn't have the 'en.lproj' folder in his Library, can he just use the Command ShiftN to make a new folder and call in 'en.lproj' and then put the downloaded Okidata-Microline ppd in that folder?

Once more, thank you for all your help - I'll post back and let you know how we get on!

Cheers
Tricia

Apr 15, 2008 5:31 PM in response to Patricia Henwood

Patricia Henwood wrote:
In the meantime, you were right - I was checking (on my iMac) the Library/Preferences structure of my home directory, not the Macintosh HD/Library. When I do look at that (on my system which is running 10.5.2) the path is Macintosh HD/Library/Printers/PPDs/Contents/Resources/ but on my system I don't have the 'en.lproj' folder - there is, however, a both an 'fr.lproj' and an 'it.lproj' folder (perhaps this is because I did a custom install of my OS and installed both French and Italian languages (but unchecked all the others). It was so long ago when I installed OS X 10.4 on my brother's system that I can't remember what was installed, but it would have been the minimum to try and conserve hard disk space. If he doesn't have the 'en.lproj' folder in his Library, can he just use the Command ShiftN to make a new folder and call in 'en.lproj' and then put the downloaded Okidata-Microline ppd in that folder?


Correct. It might be a good idea to keep a copy of the PPD on the Desktop. I'm one of those ugly Americans that only speaks one language. I think OS X will find the Oki PPD in the en.lproj directory. If not, you could select "Other" and navigate to the copy of the PPD that is on the Desktop. Just hedging my bets on this.

Matt

Apr 15, 2008 5:48 PM in response to Matt Broughton

Thanks so much Matt - life would be much simpler for me if I only had one language to work in too ... at the moment I'm trying to send an email in Italian and I'm making a real hash of it (even using the terrific built-in Italian keyboard viewer that comes with Mac) - I think there's even an Italian spell check somewhere but maybe that's in Word. Will keep you informed ...

Cheers
Tricia

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