11 Replies Latest reply: May 10, 2008 3:02 PM by cornelius
Jitanjafora Level 2 Level 2 (245 points)
Hi all,

Being a Pismo virgin (just got my first, love it), I have some questions about the expansion modules.

1) If I remove my DVD drive without closing the Pismo first, I always get a kernel panic. It works fine if I close it, take the module out, and open the laptop afterwards. (This is while running Tiger, OS 10.4.11.) Is this normal? Also, the DVD drive does not appear to be bootable. It's not the original DVD drive, but a UJ-846 DVD burner that works great.

2) I have a VST hard drive module, which also works a treat. However, every time I remove it, whether or not I close the Pismo, I get the "device improperly removed" message. I can't see any way to eject it from the Finder before removing it --there is no such option, as far as I can tell. Should I just ignore the message and get on with life?

Any help with this will be appreciated.

MacBook Pro, eMac, iMac, Gigabit, MDD, Pismo, Mac OS X (10.5.2), Also Tiger (10.4.11) and OS 9.2.2
  • PBookie Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)
    Hi jitanjafora,

    Welcome the the world of Pismo Fan-atics!

    +1) If I remove my DVD drive without closing the Pismo first, I always get a kernel panic. It works fine if I close it, take the module out, and open the laptop afterwards. (This is while running Tiger, OS 10.4.11.) Is this normal? Also, the DVD drive does not appear to be bootable. It's not the original DVD drive, but a UJ-846 DVD burner that works great+

    I remember having the same problem with one of my Pismos when I upgraded to a UJ845 dual-layer burner. I think it went away when I downloaded Patchburn 4. This also enables Pismos to recognize the burner for startup. Try this URL:
    www.patchburn.de

    +2) I have a VST hard drive module, which also works a treat. However, every time I remove it, whether or not I close the Pismo, I get the "device improperly removed" message. I can't see any way to eject it from the Finder before removing it --there is no such option, as far as I can tell. Should I just ignore the message and get on with life?+

    It has been a long time since I used a VST module, but if I remember right, you merely drag the hard drive icon on your desktop to the trash before physically removing it.

    Let us know if these ideas work. If not, there are a whole bunch of Pismo fans on this forum with a lot more experience than I have who I am sure will be glad to jump in to help you.
    PB
  • Hardy Geer Level 4 Level 4 (3,165 points)
    Any volume should be dragged to the trash before being disconnected from the computer. If you don't the OS may not have updated everything on the volume. This Applies to floppies, zip drives, firewire drives, usb drives, and of course drives in the expansion module.
  • Jitanjafora Level 2 Level 2 (245 points)
    Hi PB and Hardy,

    Thanks a lot, guys! Patchburn took care of the kernel panics. They're gone! I haven't tried to boot from the drive yet, but I'm sure I'll work now.

    As for dragging the HD to the trash... My only excuse is the lame fact that I seldom drag anything to the trash anymore, just right click and eject. But not to even think about that... I feel soooo STUPID!

    I always wondered why there were so many die-hard Pismo fans, but now I don't. I wish I had got one sooner. Old MBP (well, actually brand new) is gathering dust on my desk. Thanks again!
  • cornelius Level 6 Level 6 (17,825 points)
    Jitanjafora:

    I see your issue has been resolved. Congratulations!

    However, I, too, want to welcome you to the Pismo fan club, and to let you know that this is the best place on the net to come with your questions about the Pismo. And there is absolutely no need to feel stupid; we all overlook obvious things, and we all have to begin the learning curve somewhere.

    cornelius
  • Jitanjafora Level 2 Level 2 (245 points)
    Hi cornelius,

    Thanks for the warm welcome. I am grappling right now with whether or not to G4 my Pismo, and your own thread about it has been very helpful. I'd like to hear what you have to say about it after all this time, however.

    Thanks!
  • PBookie Level 2 Level 2 (215 points)
    Hi again jitan...
    I thought I would jump in here again, and give you some of my thoughts about upgrading the Pismo with G4 cards.
    In our ministry in Guatemala we have used 6 G4 Pismos during the past four years. We have had virtually no problems with them. they are definitely much faster
    (and I believe more stable) than with the original G3 cards.
    We also upgraded them all with either 768 or 1024mb of memory, which I would advise with any G4 upgrade. We couldn't have been happier with the performance of these with the upgrades.
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    However, economically speaking, I would not do it today at the value of a Pismo in regards to the price of the upgrade cards and the price of ram for these.
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    On the other hand, if you really love your Pismo as most of us who have owned one do, and the price isn't a consideration, then why not enjoy your Pismo at the peak of what it can be!!
    PB

    PS I am writing this from my upgraded Pismo, while my newer units sit
    idle. I personally prefer the Pismo keyboard over the new ones.

    Message was edited by: PBookie
  • cornelius Level 6 Level 6 (17,825 points)
    Jitanjafora:
    I'd like to hear what you have to say about it after all this time, however.

    I just finished responding to your other topic about the processor upgrade. After 8 years as a Pismo owner, after watching my children and grand children buy and use G4 laptops, I still love this black box. And it is not entirely an emotional attachment, although it, certainly, is that.

    The Pismo is the first modern Mac laptop with many fatures: two expansion bays, a PC card slot, 2 firewire ports, 2 USB ports, supports a full Gigabyte of RAM, easy access to the insides of the computer. After many round trips I am able to get into an iBook, change a Hard Disk Drive, and reassemble it in a total of about 50 minutes. With the Pismo I can do it in 10 minutes, and without printed directions. That's because it is so easy to get into this machine. The Pismo comes with a CD/DVD ROM. I recently upgraded mine to a to a SuperDrive for $45. Again, easy access: flip the lever, pull the optical drive out, four screws out, swap the drives, four screws in, and back into the bay.

    I have heard people say that the Pismo has the best keyboard of later Mac laptops. It certainly is just large enough, and has a very soft, but firm, touch. The main drawback with the computer is that it has a slower video card that can't be upgraded. But, I have been watching streaming video as I watch CNN primary elections results, while I work on this, with two other browers and other applications open.

    Well, I can talk about this all night, but I have to go to bed.

    You will love the Pismo. It is, in my mind, the best laptop computer every made Well, I may be a bit biased, just a bit.

    cornelius
  • Jitanjafora Level 2 Level 2 (245 points)
    Good morning guys, and thanks for sharing.

    PBookie: A ministry in Guatemala! These discussions seem to attract interesting people.

    Cornelius: Ditto for you. Yours are possibly the best written, most articulate posts I have read in the entire forums.

    My Pismo has a full gig of RAM, a 100 gig HD, and even an entirely superfluous SuperDrive, so it would only need to be G4'ed to be "at the peak of what it can be," like PBookie puts it.

    This machine has been a lesson in humility, since I already have a MPB with all the bells and whistles. Thing is, the MBP is not what you would call a congenial machine --it's pretty cold, all brushed metal and lights, and one's always afraid of scratching or warping it. As a result, I mostly use it on a stand as a desktop computer, with an external mouse and keyboard: a conceited, frosty beauty.

    The Pismo, on the other hand, is friendliness itself. It follows me everywhere, like a faithful pet, and, Cornelius, the keyboard is really the best I have tried, bar none. Although it is heavier than the MBP, it's easier to carry around. And it handles word-processing and web-surfing as well as any other machine--both in Tiger and in OS 9. So, as it turns out, I don't need those bells and whistles 90% of the time...

    Gotta run. Thanks again!
  • cornelius Level 6 Level 6 (17,825 points)
    PBookie:
    In our ministry in Guatemala we have used 6 G4 Pismos during the past four years. We have had virtually no problems with them.

    I wondered what you were doing down there in Guatemala. Good for you. It is quite an interesting community here, as we get to know a bit more about persons, apart from their technical aptitude.

    Cheers

    cornelius
  • John Wilson M.D. Level 1 Level 1 (90 points)
    Hey Cornelius, et-al I've been doing some playing around today with OS 9. Just for kicks and giggles. I remember you posting that you couldn't get the new DVD burner to work in OS 9, is that right? Well, I did a google search andfound this website :http://www.os9forever.com/DVDPlayer.html It has a link to an updated DVD player and a patch so that it will work with any new drive! That was pretty cool. It has a link to a DVD burner patch but that was apparently removed because of intellectual property rights issues. But, at least I can play videos in OS 9 with my new drive now.

    Have a great day.
    John
  • cornelius Level 6 Level 6 (17,825 points)
    Hi John:
    I remember you posting that you couldn't get the new DVD burner to work in OS 9, is that right?

    Actually, I have not tried the burner with OS 9 as I do not currently have OS 9 installed on my Pismo. I deleted it a while ago when I had some corruption on my disk, and I was in northern Onatario, Canada with none of my OS maintenance tools along. In any case, thank you for the link. I will check it out. I am sure it will come in handy sometime.

    cornelius