What's up with the Caldigit HD One tower?

Looking to go Raid 5 and stumbled across this today.

http://www.caldigit.com/HDOne/

It looks like the same specs as the Caldigit HD pro, just smaller and cheaper. Anyone see this one at NAB? I'm strongly leaning towards buying this when it comes out, because it looks to be the cheapest 8 bay raid 5 solution on the market. The 2 Terabyte model is going for $2,300.

G5 Quad PPC, MBP 2.33 15", Mac OS X (10.5.2)

Posted on Apr 30, 2008 4:42 PM

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Apr 30, 2008 4:59 PM in response to Brandon Parris

I consult for CalDigit, and use their products, so let me take a crack at this. I will be getting the HDOne very soon myself.

Differences:

Controller cache: The HDPro comes with 256MB of controller cache...upgradable to 2GB. The HDOne is 256MB only...not upgradable. What that means is that with more memory in the controller cache, the seek times remain high even when the unit starts to fill up with data. Typically the fuller the drives, the slower the read/write. Having controller cache eases the burden by keeping information about what is stored on the drive in RAM...thus making seek times faster. VERY good when dealing with 2K footage and your drives are full. Keeps the speeds fast.

HDPro has a Cache Battery Backup...so if you lose power to the unit, the cache retains the data for a period of time..meaning it doesn't need to rebuild that information. The HDOne lacks this.

HDPro has options for TWO power control units...load sharing, meaning each takes on half the power load. And if one fails, then the other can take the full brunt. This ships as an option on the HDPRO. The HD One ships with one power control unit only.

The HD Pro was designed for the HIGH END guys working with 4:4:4 HD and 2K. So that the speeds you get with the unit empty are the same you get with the unit full, and built in redundancy across the board. The HDOne is pared down for the guys like me who work with compressed HD like DVCPRO HD, and don't need the huge read write speeds to remain so high.

Shane

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HD Pro is hot swappable, meaning you can unmount the drives, and with the unit powered up, remove the drives without an issue. With the HD One, you should first power down the unit, then remove the drives.

Apr 30, 2008 5:17 PM in response to Shane Ross

Thanks for the info Shane. We're working in DVCPRO HD, and I have a mother of a battery backup on the unit. I'm thinking this might be the one for me. Do you happen to know what drives they use? I called on the phone today and the tech said he thinks it will be hitachi deskstars. I want to try and save what money I can by buying the 2TB model and upgrading the drives myself. Looking forward to the review once you get your hands on one.

Apr 30, 2008 5:26 PM in response to Brandon Parris

OOp....I was wrong on one point (looking this up on their web page and comparing).

The HDOne still features hot swap drives. If a fan fails, you will have to power the unit down before trading it out. Basically the HDOne is all cool swap, save for the drives, the HDPro is all hot swap....meaning that if a power unit fails, or a fan fails, you can keep it powered on and working while you replace the parts. ZERO down time.

Do you happen to know what drives they use?


Hitachi if I recall correctly. I remember they were all Seagate, but then had issues with some, and switched to Hitachi.

I want to try and save what money I can by buying the 2TB model and upgrading the drives myself.


Bad idea. The firmware on the drives is set to match that of the unit, to give you optimal drive performance. Can you replace the drives yourself? Yes. Will it void the warranty...OH YES. Will it work as well...nope. WHen testing the S2VR Duo, I tried this little trick myself, and it didn't work out too well. Performance was half what it should be.

I know...I am cost conscious too. That's why I tried that stunt.

Shane

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May 1, 2008 1:53 AM in response to Brandon Parris

I have been going through the same questions since seeing a new hdone in NAB.
One big difference that Caldigit explained to me the other day, their hdpro user can upgrade the CPU (faster performance?), and also hdpro is SAN ready. This makes investment worthwhile since you could do the SAN in the future. hdpro is more expensive than hdone but you get more room to grow - the SAN and upgradable of components are superb.

p.s. caldigit demo HDPro's SAN feature during NAB, I was very impressed.

May 1, 2008 11:29 AM in response to Shane Ross

That's a bummer about replacing the drives. What if I have a drive fail? If the firmware of the drive matches each individual unit, how do I go about getting a replacement drive matched to my specific unit? I didn't see any spare drives for the HDPRO listed anywhere on the caldigit website either. The only spare drives I saw were for the SVR Duo. Have you had a hard drive fail in your HDPRO unit? It just seems odd to me that I can't go out and buy the same drive they use, screw it into the drive tray myself, and have it work at full power. I have done this with all my firewire drive bays with no issues, granted they haven't been caldigit.

May 1, 2008 1:11 PM in response to Brandon Parris

The price difference is because they add the tray sleds, update the firmware, verify they are in good working order. If drive fails under warranty, then you get a replacement for free.

If you don't like RAIDs with drives included, there are plenty of other options for you. www.macgurus.com www.firmtech.com www.weibetech.com www.sonnettech.com. But the truth of the matter is that most companies that offer hardware raid solutions offer FULL solutions. And if something doesn't work, you have one company to call...not the drive company then the hardware unit company, and have each pointing fingers at the other one.

If you find it expensive, look at the other solutions Not everyone can afford those drives. I couldn't for the longest time, and so I had my own homemade solutions. I know where you are coming from.

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May 1, 2008 1:34 PM in response to Shane Ross

Thanks for the reply Shane. My budget overlord has an extremely tight wallet, and we still have an HD monitor and an upgraded graphics card to purchase as part of this upgrade, so I'm trying to pinch as many pennies as I can here. I checked out sonnetech and the like, but I really don't see a cheaper Raid 5 solution with 8 drive bays. I think I'll bite the bullet and go with the 2TB model, and then upgrade as I see fit later on. Stretching out the purchase of the drives over time will probably work with my budget. I can probably slip a 1 TB drive in once every 3 months or so. I really want to go caldigit because of all the great things I've heard, plus the fact that they are 5 miles from me and have contacted me 7 times since I called them yesterday with questions. They seem like a pretty solid company, and everyone I have spoken with knew exactly what they were talking about. Thanks for all your help on this one, greenie for you.

May 1, 2008 2:16 PM in response to Brandon Parris

Problem with your solution...if you buy the 2TB model, it comes FULLY POPULATED with 250GB hard drives. The 4TB is populated with 500GB hard drives. SO it isn't that you have two 1TB drives in two bays, and the others are empty (like the XSERVE RAID), but always fully populated. This is the same way with ALL of the other guys.

Want to save money? Get a low cost RAID 0, then some cheap FW drives to back the footage up onto. A sort of manual RAID 1.

Shane

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