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MacBook Pro 10.4 won't install 10.5, not original optical drive

Hello. I know the answer to the first part of this question. I have a 1st gen MacBook Pro (1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo), with 10.4.11 on it. I just last week upgraded the internal HD to one with a larger capacity. Went to install Leopard, and guess what? It says it cannot install on this Mac. I check this on the KB, find out it's probably because it is not the original optical disk inside anymore. Joy.

OK, my question is this: At the time I had the HD upgraded, I had the original HD taken out and installed in a housing to make it a USB external drive. Can I somehow install Leopard on that drive, then clone it back over to the one in my MBP? Using Carbon Copy Clone on something similar? Please advise.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 1.38 GHz Intel Core Duo, 2 GB RAM

Posted on May 16, 2008 11:42 AM

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May 16, 2008 12:48 PM in response to Patrick Kachurek

If the optical drive doesn't boot the OS X Installer then how would you install OS X on the external drive? If you mistyped then your problem is not because you replaced the hard drive, it's probably because you haven't prepped it:

Extended Hard Drive Preparation

1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder. If you need to reformat your startup volume, then you must boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger or Leopard.)

2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.

3. Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID (only required for Intel Macs) then click on the OK button. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.

4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.

5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.

6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.

May 16, 2008 1:05 PM in response to Patrick Kachurek

I just last week upgraded the internal HD to one with a larger capacity. Went to install Leopard, and guess what? It says it cannot install on this Mac. I check this on the KB, find out it's probably because it is not the original optical disk inside anymore.

If you only replaced the hard drive, then you still have the original optical drive, which is referring to the SuperDrive.

Just to confirm another possibility, is this Leopard installer a retail copy, or is it a system disk from a different model of Mac?

May 16, 2008 1:33 PM in response to Patrick Kachurek

I too am somewhat confused by whether the optical drive is or is not the original one, if you only replaced the hard drive. But you certainly could boot your Mac from the external, and then install Leopard on that, and then clone it back.

In fact, that's what I did before installing leopard on my internal. I cloned the internal to an external, installed leopard, played with it for a couple of weeks to be sure everything was working all right, and only then installed on my internal (or cloned back to the internal).

May 16, 2008 4:24 PM in response to Patrick Kachurek

OK, I guess I didn't list the problem as clearly as I should have...

I have the Leopard CD in the CD drive. It sees it fine. I click on the installer, and it starts. I get the screen that asks what language I want, I choose English, then it starts its check of the system, and about ten seconds later, it comes back and says it cannot install on this Mac.

Here's the Install Log:

May 16 11:03:47 localhost Unknown[60]: kern.boottime: { sec = 1210960961, usec = 0 } Fri May 16 11:02:41 2008
May 16 11:03:47 localhost Unknown[64]: Launching the Language Chooser for an OS Install
May 16 11:03:47 localhost Unknown[66]: 2008-05-16 11:03:47.954 LCA[65:10b] _CFGetHostUUIDString: unable to determine UUID for host. Error: 35
May 16 11:04:11 localhost configd[41]: InterfaceNamer: setting platform UUID = 00000000-0000-1000-8000-0016CB88F33A
May 16 11:04:14 localhost LCA[65]: Folder Manager is being asked to create a folder (asav) while running as uid 0
May 16 11:04:15 localhost LCA[65]: Found primary language hint "en"
May 16 11:04:20 Macintosh-0016CB88F33A configd[41]: hostname (reverse DNS query) = Macintosh-0016CB88F33A.local
May 16 11:04:20 Macintosh-0016CB88F33A configd[41]: setting hostname to "Macintosh-0016CB88F33A.local"
May 16 11:04:24 Macintosh-0016CB88F33A configd[41]: NetBIOS name (default) = MAC0016CB88F33A
May 16 11:04:27 localhost configd[41]: setting hostname to "localhost"
May 16 11:04:32 localhost configd[41]: NetBIOS name (default) = MAC0016CB88F33A
May 16 11:07:21 localhost LCA[65]: Launching the Installer using language code "English"
May 16 11:07:21 localhost /System/Installation/CDIS/Mac OS X Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Mac OS X Installer[149]: vm_allocate: 0, 0x200e2000 - 0x400e2000
May 16 11:07:21 localhost /System/Installation/CDIS/Mac OS X Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Mac OS X Installer[149]: vm_protect: 0
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Mac OS X Installer application started
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: 1 display(s) found.
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Display[1] is using OpenGL acceleration.
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: @(#)PROGRAM:Install PROJECT:Install-374
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: @(#)PROGRAM:Mac OS X Installer PROJECT:OSInstaller-88.1
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Hardware: MacBookPro1,1 @ 1.83 GHz (x 2), 2048 MB RAM
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.5 (9A3129)
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Env: DYLD NO_FIXPREBINDING=1
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Env: PWD=/
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Env: SHLVL=1
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Env: OS_INSTALL=1
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Env: _=/System/Installation/CDIS/LCA.app/Contents/MacOS/LCA
May 16 11:07:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Opening OSInstall package '/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg'.
May 16 11:07:22 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Installation checks failed.
May 16 11:07:22 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Installation check failures: This software cannot be installed on this computer.
May 16 11:07:23 localhost OSInstaller[149]: Folder Manager is being asked to create a folder (asav) while running as uid 0
May 16 11:08:18 localhost Unknown[66]: 2008-05-16 11:08 Mac OS X Installer[149] (CarbonCore.framework) FSEventStreamStart: ERROR: FSEvents_connect() => Unknown service name (1102)
May 16 11:08:21 localhost OSInstaller[149]: installAutoFSMonitor: open failed
May 16 11:08:23 localhost OSInstaller[149]: TaskLauncher::Launch Failed

Then, before I quit the installer, I choose the external drive as my startup. It restarts, I launch the installer again, it asks to restart the Mac. OK, I figure since I have the external drive now selected, it will boot that and start the install. It doesn't. It seems like the install CD doesn't want to kick in on the external drive.

Looking at the log above, any ideas? Thanks for all the help here! If all I wanted was to use the external USB drive to boot, it does that, so it is a bootable drive.

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