Converting 8mm tape to DVD

Hi,

I'm currently trying to figure out the best way to convert all my family 8mm tapes to DVD. My goals are to do this is the least painful way, yet I want the best possible quality, without going broke.

I currently have 2 options available to me, and I've tried both somewhat.

Option 1 - Capture the 8mm tape (digitize) to my G5 computer, onto my 500 GB external firewire 800 drive that I bought specifically for this purpose. I would do so using a Sony DCR-TRV103 digital 8 camcorder that automatically converts the analog signal to a digital signal via firewire cable. I would use iMovie for capturing/editing, and then iDVD to create the DVD. I also have Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro, but I generally use that combination for more intensive work. Transferring family videos I'd like to keep as simple as possible.

Option 2 - Burn directly to DVD through my DVD recorder hooked up to my TV. I would connect the Sony digital 8 camcorder up to the DVD recorder through the iLink cable...hit play on the camcorder, record on the DVD recorder...and there you have it, 8mm tape onto DVD. This option is the simplest it seems like, but then I don't have any of my video digitized.

Now, one thing to note here is that option 2 yields better results when dealing with quality. That kind of surprised me, but it does. I don't know why this is, but is it using less compression than iDVD would be using? The downfall to Option 2 is that I can't create menus and chapter markers, like I could in iDVD. I also can't edit the video as much as I would be able to in iMovie or FCP.

Suggestions? What do you think the best route for me to take is?

Thanks a bunch

Posted on May 16, 2008 4:34 PM

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May 16, 2008 9:17 PM in response to QuickTimeKirk

I'm already making .dv copies myself with my camcorder. It has a built in analog-digital transfer. Last time I took my 8mm tapes to a pro, I paid 50 dollars for 2 tapes to get transferred to DVD and the quality I'm getting myself doing it looks better. I'd like to do this myself as I have the necessary tools. I'm just wondering why certain issues are coming up.

For one, when I play the 8mm tapes back through the camcorder on my TV, I don't really get any jitter like things. However, when I capture the tape onto my computer through iMovie, there is like a thin line of distortion/jitter at the bottom. There is also a little bit on the right. Why is this showing up when I capture it but not when I just view it through my camcorder?

May 21, 2008 3:34 PM in response to John McGuire1

John,
I have done something similar to what you are proposing. I converted all my old VHS and Hi-8 tapes of our family to miniDV tapes and have finished creating iMovies of the majority of them, and burning them to DVD. So I am using a two-step method of importing into iMovie--first onto DV tapes, then importing that footage into iMovie.

I chose to record the original footage onto miniDV tapes first for two reasons. One, I was not sure how long it would take to make movies of many years of videos and photos and some of my old VHS tapes were already beginning to degrade. I was afraid that they would worsen, so I wanted to capture them onto digital tape and then I wouldn't have to worry about losing more quality.
Second, although I have both a Hi-8 VCR and a Hi-8 camcorder, neither is working properly. One lets me play back the video and record it to my digital miniDV camcorder, but it will not permit using reverse; the other would easily rewind the tapes, but wouldn't play them. I didn't want to have to buy a Hi-8 camcorder just to convert 30 tapes.

So, now I have a container of all of my original raw footage. It is about the size of two stacked shoeboxes. I have made DVDs of our family's movies for a 20-year period and I have 7 years to go! Then, I am going to do one DVD for each side of the family's very old photos--no movies from then--from 1890s-1960s.

As for quality, what you see in iMovie is much less clear and bright than what is created on the DVD.

It is a matter of personal preference. I find it easy to make the movies in iMovie with my videos and photos. I agree with you--I certainly would not pay to have it done. No one else would know how I want it to be, and I also would not want to pay out that kind of money for something I could have done better.

I know that those who create slideshows from photos from within iDVD report that the quality of the photos is better than creating the same slideshow in iMovie. However, iMovie allows for more creative options. Since my early footage is VHS, and the photos are scanned-in snapshots, I have been more than happy with the quality of my subsequent DVDs.

I am about to begin an iMovie using original DV tape footage and digital photos. I do notice that the photos are very blurry in iMovie, and I will be checking carefully when I get the DVD finished to see if quality will be an issue.

Finally, I did notice that distortion at the bottom of my iMovies, but it is not there in the DVD, nor is it on the DV tape of the finished iMovie that I export back to my camcorder.

I guess I am paranoid about backups, but I keep a copy of all our DVDs in our safe-deposit box, as well as giving a copy to each of our children and having an extra set just in case something happens to our working set. In addition, I do export each finished iMovie to DV tape. I know that DVD disks can crack, break, get stepped on, melt or become heat-damaged, or get scratched. I wanted to have the movies saved in another digital format to be converted whenever DVDs become as obsolete as VHS tapes.
Oh, I also create a disk image for every iDVD project, and I save those disk images to an external hard drive in case something happens to one of the burned disks and I need to make another copy. (Told you I was paranoid!) 🙂

Good luck with your project!

May 22, 2008 2:00 AM in response to Beverly Maneatis

Wow, tons of great info! Thanks a bunch. I'm currently importing all the 8mm tapes into iMovie, editing, and then burning through iDVD.

However, I have come across a few problems. For some reason, the first 10 or so tapes all worked well. Now, all the tapes I'm capturing seem to be much lower in volume and there is some nasty audio distortion on certain spots. To test what was going on, I re-captured a tape that I had already captured and sounded okay, and compared them back to back...for whatever reason, I am now getting much lower volume and stupid static/distortion kind of sounds in the audio. The video looks the same. I can't figure out if it's the camera or something else.

I really don't think it's iMovie as there aren't really a whole lot of options that could have changed. I have tried changing the audio from 12 bit to 16 bit on the camera, but no luck. I have no idea what happened, but all of a sudden this is going on. Any advice?

Thanks for all the help.

May 22, 2008 3:29 PM in response to John McGuire1

Were all your old videos recorded in 12 bit? Changing the settings on the camcorder may help, but only if you re-record at 16-bit. That means you have to export from iMovie back to your camcorder to a new DV tape, and then re-import that since it is now in 16-bit audio. I had to do that for a tape that was at 12-bit. In iMovie it had lots of audio distortion. It had been recorded at 12-bit when I was unaware that the setting could be changed on the camcorder 😟 The re-recording worked great and I had no audio problems after that.

I would try that on one of your shorter movies, or maybe just a few clips to see how it works.
Sorry if that means you may have to import, export and reimport all those videos! 🙂

Just to cover an iMovie problem you should also do a trashing of iMovie's preference file--just in case it IS iMovie that is having the difficulty.
Close iMovie and go: Home file(YourUserName)/Library/Preferences/com.apple.imovie.plist
Drag this plist file to the trash. Don't worry...iMovie will create a new fresh one when you reopen it.
Relaunch iMovie.

See if the footage plays any better. I doubt it, I think the 12-bit recording is the problem here.

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