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Cleaning up a Vinyl to Logic recording...?

Hi everyone, a friend of mine asked me if I could convert an old Songs and Games Childrens Record" from Vinyl to CD (digital realm) and I've accepted. Now I'd like to get this as clean as possible however there are clicks and pops in the recording as it's an old record, though in pretty good shape really. So I've been fiddling with Logic's Denoiser, and as far as I can tell, it's terrible, it either introduces artifacts or obliviates the original recording's (children singing) sound. As for the De-Esser I'm more willing to admit some ignorance here, does anyone know of a good setting for ridding a recording of clicks and pops. I've been sweeping the frequencies and trying to set the De-Esser accordingly but alas to no avail as of yet. Anyways, anyone with some tips on getting vinyl into the Digital domain in good form your help would be greatly appreciated, cheers,
Graham

Posted on Sep 20, 2005 5:26 PM

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Sep 20, 2005 5:57 PM in response to Graham Campbell3

Hi Graham, I've never found a really great working tool for declicking or decrackling within Logic. If I understand you correctly, the record/s are not actually hissing but scratched. No job for a denoiser then, really. I had to do a couple of vinyl jobs - pretty much like what you describe there - and the most simple, yet convincing and cost-effective piece of software that did the job for me was the TC Electronics 'Spark' PlugIn called 'TC DeClicker'. I've also used Steinbergs DeClicker and Denoiser in some cases - but thats gone, together with the days of OS 9.
If there is no sonic solutions DAW at hand ... I'd recommend you get one of these (discontinued for Mac OS X since version 2.8.2) Spark Software packages at ebay or wherever and only install the 'Spark FX Machine' which can then be converted via FXPansion's VST-AU Converter into a nicely working AU for L7. Which actually still works well on all my systems - I use it in every other session where old vinyl samples are involved ... hope that helps.

Edit : oops - just realized you're on tiger there. what i've stated regarding spark PlugIns was related to all panther versions only, on tiger, those unsupported PlugIns aren't really reliable, I'm afraid - sorry !

Sep 20, 2005 6:08 PM in response to Graham Campbell3

graham,

a de esser is not really intended for the task you are doing. it is a compressor keyed to a limited frequency band deisgned to react to sibilance primarily in vocal recordings, to take the edge off nasty 's' sounds. you might get something useful from it in this context, but it's not the tool for the job.

for audio restoration, logic doesn't really come with the best tools around. you can do general cleaning and sweetening using traditional techniques of gentle noise reduction, eq and editing to smooth out the nastier glitches. but what you really need are proper audio restauration tools such as:

http://www.bias-inc.com/products/soundsoappro/

Sep 20, 2005 6:16 PM in response to tbirdparis

Thanks T-bird, I'll check out Bias, I know that a De-Esser isn't exactly the correct tool, however i was thinking of something one of my teachers showed me where he keyed a de-esser to work whenever a guitar player squeaked while playing acoustic as a mastering trick, thought I may be able to do something similar, by for example figuring out if the click/pops were happening at say 3khz ideally then have the de-esser trigger to that specific frequency. Anyways didn't work, but I still like to fiddle every now and again, cheers,
Graham

Sep 21, 2005 7:59 AM in response to Graham Campbell3

Umm...

I'm sure i'll be corrected if i am wrong but if you can use the Waves plugins, the X-series (X-noise, X-Crackle, X-Hum, etc, etc.) then you should hear some great results. To be honest though, I use these in PT to do exactly what you are trying to do and they work great. I think you need to run (and this is where you can correct me guys :)) DTDM in order to run them in Logic.

Either way, the waves noisse reduction plugs are very good.

Cleaning up a Vinyl to Logic recording...?

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