An ALARM goes off every day at 2 a.m. - don't know why, please help

Over a month ago an alarm started going off everyday at 2 a.m.. I have exhausted dif. avenues to try to determine why. The alarm sounds similar to an alarm clock, but starts out slow and then reaches a frantic crescendo...and I almost swear its length of time is increasing. The alarm lasts around a minute. I used the app. to check the system and it found no errors. During the alarm, I can perform any function, so it's not affecting usage, but am desperate to find out its cause "and" cure, plus I'm tired of it making me up in the middle of night. Thanks for any help.

iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on May 20, 2008 6:49 PM

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May 27, 2008 6:01 PM in response to shiptoshirl

shiptoshirl wrote:
....Just out of interest, what makes you so sure it did go off?

It has gone off every night for at least the last 4 weeks...if nothing else, it has been pretty faithful.

Sorry, it wasn't an entirely serious question. But it does suggest you'd have to set an alarm to confirm the absence of this one! I did wonder if you'd noticed the Mac do anything out of the ordinary when you looked at it today or found it in an unexpected state...

- cfr

May 28, 2008 9:05 AM in response to andyBall_uk

Hi again,

((to be sure, use the Finder menus at the top of your screen - click Go, then 'Go to Folder' then paste this next line

/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration


in the box that opens up - it should take you straight to the right folder.))

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Worked perfectly except no file named com.apple.AutoWake.plist Does the absence of this file mean anything significant?

May 30, 2008 11:58 AM in response to Clea Rees

Following are your questions forwarded to me by Andy Ball via email.

((Is the sound coming from the speakers (would go through earphones or external speakers if connected) or is it coming from the bowels of the machine?))

...From the speakers.

.....After re-reading this I realize I really don't know. I may be just assuming the alarm is coming thru my external speakers.....after all, I'm not on the top of my game when woken up at 2 in the morning. Will try to find out

So you could silence it by turning the connected external speakers off and it is presumably software related rather than mechanical.

...there isn't an off switch for my speakers, are connected to headphone port.

If you were to start from the Tiger install disk (as if you were going to use Disk Utility to repair you hard drive) by inserting the disk and pressing the 'c' key during the restart, does the alarm still go off?

...Have to find it first.

And if the computer is actually off (rather than sleeping) you'd have to switch it on?

...Yes. Actually tested shutting down once to see if the alarm would go off...it did but stayed in shut down.

Am now going to start to back up my files.

May 30, 2008 4:01 PM in response to Chris CA

I see some of my questions and your answers have been resurrected. Unfortunately, my post containing the links to other posts at Apple Discussions which seemed connected has not. I don't know why it was deleted. (I didn't get an email and I can't imagine it violated anything. Maybe an error?) Anyway, unfortunately, I didn't bookmark the links which I'd found after going through a bunch of search results.

If you have earphones, disconnect the speakers and connect the earphones. If the alarm is coming from the speakers, it'll go through the earphones. If not, it is coming from the hardware.

I know I'd said to be careful about backing up because some of the posts I'd found linked alarm sounds with failing HDs. I had hoped you would be able to read them to see if the sounds you're hearing relate to the sounds reported there - which is why I asked if you'd ever described it. I know you said it sounded like your alarm clock. What does your alarm clock sound like? E.g. does it beep, sound siren-like, sound like a smoke alarm...? Some of the posts I found did mention alarms which sounded even if the computer was shut down and, indeed, even if the computer was shut down, the AC pulled, disconnected from the net, and the battery pulled. Since these were the only links I'd found which mentioned anything like this (after a fair amount of searching), I posted them even though they were not exactly like yours. There was only one mention of a sound repeated at regular intervals and that was repeated at 3 minute intervals even if the machine was shut down, the power and battery pulled etc.

I'm thinking this is one of two things. First, hardware - there are reports of mechanical sounds which sound more like alarms than they do like (obviously) mechanical sounds. These tend to be related to the imminent demise of something - especially hard drives. I say "these tend", but I should emphasise that I only found three links and there was no obvious consensus or pattern. Moreover, it is not clear that the cause was a failing HD in those cases - there are also suggestions linking the issue to sleep settings, PMU etc. There were also suggestions that the 3 minute repeated sound (which I think was described as beeping rather than the "siren-like" alarm in one of the other threads) was linked with a dodgy logic board but, again, it is very unclear - especially since the computer started and performed just fine which is not something you'd expect a computer with a dodgy logic board to do... But I am also forgetting all the details, I think.

Second, something very low level e.g. in Boot ROM or something. (I don't know much about this stuff so I don't know how likely or unlikely - or impossible - it might be.)

I wish we hadn't lost the trail of this discussion. I'm hoping if BDAqua happens by he might know what happened/why it happened so that we can avoid it repeating. I've copied your email in case something happens again because it may get deleted if somebody appropriate happens by to do so. (Since it is personally identifying information.)

The problem with the hardware theory is that unless you have some very strange hardware it is extremely unclear why something bad should happen or be about to happen at 2am, and only 2am, every day. Also, if it comes from the speakers, this isn't it - at least, it isn't a mechanical sound in that case. I suppose it could be an alarm triggered by a hardware issue.

Wish I could remember what I'd searched for, too. I ran so many searches about this that I can't remember the terms I put in the one that finally returned some somewhat relevant results. It still got me 4 pages of results to go through but that was at least manageable. Sorry. I'm not saying the links would have helped, but I'm really frustrated you can't even look to see if anything clicks!

- cfr

May 30, 2008 4:34 PM in response to Clea Rees

I wish we hadn't lost the trail of this discussion. I'm hoping if BDAqua happens by he might know what happened/why it happened so that we can avoid it repeating.


I know the whole Apple Discussions was down for a bit yesterday, I never saw anything that would get things cut out... lest it was my mention of you know what! 😟

Going to ask over in the L4/L5 Lounge as to what might be?

May 30, 2008 4:52 PM in response to BDAqua

BDAqua wrote:
I wish we hadn't lost the trail of this discussion. I'm hoping if BDAqua happens by he might know what happened/why it happened so that we can avoid it repeating.


I know the whole Apple Discussions was down for a bit yesterday, I never saw anything that would get things cut out... lest it was my mention of you know what! 😟

Going to ask over in the L4/L5 Lounge as to what might be?

Thank you. I saw the stuff posted and some of it was interactive - i.e. people responding. (Some of that got emailed to the OP by somebody and hence reposted above.) I think we lost the entire discussion of nvram -p output, for example, as well. And there was nothing personally identifying in that output from the OP. I went through every line doing a comparison with the output on my machine so I really am sure about that. And that's the only reason I can think it would be deleted. Many of the other posts were obviously non-personal, obviously relevant, contained links only to other threads in the Discussions etc.

I'm just somewhat frustrated to see the results of information gathering efforts by everybody involved lost.

- cfr

May 31, 2008 12:20 PM in response to Chris CA

Chris CA wrote:
Here's a widget -> http://www.dssw.co.uk/energyschedule/
which will show you when the computer is scheduled to wake-up and show which app scheduled it.

Since some of the previous dialogue has been erased, the records are now incomplete...
-> The machine has no scheduled events. (Output from pmset -g.)
-> If the machine is shut down at 2am, it does not wake or power up. The alarm still sounds. If the machine is asleep at 2am, it does not wake. The alarm still sounds.
Also, I suspect scheduled events would abide by the clock as set in System Preferences but,
-> If NTP is disabled and the clock set to some (incorrect) time, the alarm does not sound when the clock says it is 2am. The alarm sounds when it really is 2am (and the clock says it is some other time).

- cfr

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