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Word vs. Pages: What exactly makes Word better?

Reading some of the posts here I wonder. People write about how much more advanced Word is over Pages. I keep hearing there is "no doubt" that Word is better for "professional use". Well, I am a professional and I happen to use Pages professionally.



When I first opened Pages, I didn't like that I had to chose between prepared templates. Can't use them for my professional work. So I created a template of my own, with the styles I wanted. I set Pages preferences to open my own template from now on, and never had to deal with this startup screen any more.



But other than that, I haven't seen any disadvantages. To the contrary -- my work results have improved, invested time has decreased and my work flow has become more streamlined, thanks to improved usability over Word. I get the impression that most people favor word just out of comfort, because they got used to it over decades of breaking their fingers in order to make it work the way they work.



So I'm asking everyone here: What is it you think that makes Word better than Pages? Is it just your comfort, that you're used to dig through thousands of windows to find a cumbersome translation of what you were looking for? Is it a super function only hard core Word users know?


I was kidding, but seriously -- what makes Word so much better? I'm interested in all constructive comments. If someone can come up with a comparison list, that would be very useful. Keep in mind, what I ask for is not only features but also an overall experience and improvements or restrictions of your work flow.

Posted on Jul 30, 2005 12:27 PM

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Jul 30, 2005 12:33 PM in response to Henning von Vogelsang

I have never used Pages and I primarily use Word on Windows (but have used it on Mac). Some features that I use in Word that Pages may not have (and you're in a better position than I to judge) might be:
  • revisioning & comments for collaborative editing
  • footnotes/endnotes
  • automated table of contents and indexing
  • OLE links with Excel and PowerPoint to automatically update graphs/figures etc
Whether these features are importyant to you is another matter. If they're not, then Word isn't 'better' than Pages, only different.

Jul 30, 2005 8:31 PM in response to Nigel Moore

In 1997 I worked for an advertising agency in Switzerland who had the swiss Microsoft division as a client. We were developing a campaing to introduce Office 95 (yes, it was introduced in 97) and those guys from Microsoft actually did use the revisioning- and comments feature.



For me, as a copywriter then, working with these documents was nothing but pure horror. The whole experience was extremely unpleasant. It took me hours to "clean" documents from these comments, subcomments, sub-undercomments of comments and sub-sub-undercomments of comments. Apparently the document had gone through a number of revisions internally and everyone in each department had left a comment.


Why was it a problem? They used a new, internal version of Word. We didn't. I couldn't just "turn off" the comments. I also had to read them, to make the changes to the copy accordingly.


If they had just made comments in the body, say in red, with one style, I would have just selected that style and deleted everything at once after I read it. This is how we did it before Microsoft added this "feature".


During my entire time writing copies, concepts and now information architecture documents, I have not met anyone who has actually used this feature. In fact, most PC users use tabs and hand set bullets to make bullet lists. They don't even use styles that often.


Footnotes and endnotes: Pages has it. Just like in Word, you simply double click the respective area and make your settings. You can also decide wether you want the page start counting new at some page or use continued paging.


As for OLE, it is another horror format introduced by Word. I don't know where the improvement should be here. Images can be placed in word, but once a JPEG, GIF or TIFF has been placed, it becomes an OLE image, which essentially means it is not compatible with any other image format any longer. It may be true that OLE helps on a PC workflow, automatically updating pictures and graphs. That's the same promise like Indesign and Golive give for the Adobe workflow. It's an okay kind of feature to me, nice for those who're depending on it.


Is that all there is to the great advantages of Word over Pages?

Jul 31, 2005 4:48 AM in response to Henning von Vogelsang

To review Pages, I recently imported a Word document (a report from a professional project) and started editing it.

I think that Pages is an extraordinary good application. I am a Word guru in every respect, and struggled with AppleWorks, but had no problems with Pages. And when not knowing what to do, the Help texts got me on my way.

Word (I use Word 2000) has more features than Pages, and with the features the both share, Word often has more tweaking options. If you need these options, then Word might be better. But often, I am struggling more with Word, and making the document as I want it to be is often a real pain.

Word has its (team) changes and revisions history. This is a great feature if your documents are created and/or reviewed by more than one person. It can be emulated using a special "review" style (or a different style per reviewer) in Pages for new and/or changed text. But the Word feature also strikes out deleted text, which is not easy to emulate.

Basic paragraph lay-outing is much better in Pages than in Word... once you know how it works! In Word, one must define a style using a dialog window with a zillion settings and buttons. In Pages you lay-out a paragraph, select it, and apply the lay-out to a style. That's really easy. What I like about Pages is the indication that a paragraph has been changed since the last style was applied. When this is the case, a symbol is added to the style name in the styles pane (if you have it open). This is something that Word will not do. Word has the ability to define borders for a paragraph. I like underlined headings, so I use this a lot. But in Pages I could not find how to do it.

Table editing is better in Word, especially the definition of borders and border styles. Also table commands have no short cut keys in Pages. Tables tend to be inserted objects in Pages and are sometimes treated as such: when you make the font of a style larger, and this style is used in a table, the table cells will not automatically adjust to fit the new text size. This must be done by hand (well, I discovered a work around). I use tables a lot for structuring information. Maybe it can be emulated with proper style definitions, but I do not have a background in page lay-out techniques. Still, the tables in Pages are adequate enough for me.

Pages has columns, sections, headers and footers, footnotes, "page X from Y" with automated X and Y substitution and table of contents functions. Word adds endnotes, indexes, and various types of cross references. Pages benefits from the great OS-X font rendering and print-2-PDF functionality, both lacking in Word.

My conclusion is that I can use Pages for 98% of my professional reporting. The only thing I really miss is the cross reference functionality of Word. It is not required, but certainly nice to have.

Jul 31, 2005 4:56 AM in response to Henning von Vogelsang

If you are looking for a catch-all end-all be-all reason for word being better than pages (although 'better' is relative) then try maturity

Word has been out for decades, features added and enhancements ever step of the way, as well as inconsistencies and closed formats. Pages has been here for a less than a year. It is also a part of a very small suite (only Keynote so far) and it is going through growing pains.

I don't defend the iWork programs for their quirks and failures, but I do recognize them for the first attempt they are. Alread I see a lack of coherence between the products within the iwork suite and am building a rather complete description of where I think it should go in the future. (I don't plan on making it public but will present it to Apple and a few close developers.)

For now, though, Word will remain the five hundred pound gorilla in the word processing field. There are alternatives but for compatability and editing/revision features, Word has it. In many ways, though, it's features have been eclipsed by it's bloated behavior and rather one-sided formats used internally.

Jul 31, 2005 9:00 AM in response to Gerry Straathof

I agree with your view. My initiative was aimed towards all the posts I found here, stating in unison that "Word is better" but failing to point out why.

Of course a program that has existed for decades is charged with more experience. I remember Word from day one, when it came to the Mac as the first real text editor. It was actually released for Mac OS before it came out for Windows, if I'm not mistaken.

However, it took until Version 6 until it was a mature word processor. Throughout those decades of development, Word has dragged along a lot of strange behaviors or "features". For an example -- and this is something present even in the current version -- Word often forgets the font and leading you have set for a style of the body. When you set your text mark to the last sign of the last line of this paragraph and hit return, it sometimes changes back to default font, which most people have left to the default settings, Times, with the leading of 1. I have found this pattern to be repetitive on multiple Macs with various system versions, starting at OS 6 when I first noticed this behavior. It is not something random, but I have not found out until today what is causing this behavior pattern.

Another example are tables. Until the second last version of Word, it was a tedious task to create tables, worse even to modify them. Often you found yourself in a position where you had to start a new table from scratch below the one you had created, just to replace the one you screwed up accidently.

So I guess with all the maturity of Word came with a high price of decades fixing it, beta testing it on the typical user and ever so slowly implementing actually useful features, while at the same time adding a bloated amount of detailed functionality. Aimed to be everything in one, Word is now a 500 pound gorilla indeed -- heavy, clumsy, not flexible and dare you if you don't do it the way the gorilla wants you to do it.

Seriously, I think the improvements in intuitive usability are a giant step, a big advantage of Pages over Word. I doubt it will take Apple decades to remove the few quirks and add some missing features to Pages. It clearly shows to me here, that unlike other vendors, Apple is driven by a genuine concern about user experience, rather than adding a witty paper clip assistant to overcome the hurting user experience.

Jul 31, 2005 10:46 AM in response to Henning von Vogelsang

I couldn't live without Word's revision marks, but I agree that they are far from intuitive to use. It is the easiest way to show exactly what has changed in a document from one version to the next. If you send a 50 page document for review to someone, and then get it back with just the words "I made some small changes", you will spend a long time finding what those "small changes" were, unless revision marks are used.

Using OLE for pictures seems fairly pointless to me, but there may be reasons for it. However, it is a nice feature when you embed for example an Excel sheet and a graph in a presentation or a Word document.

A longer list of features in Word that lack in Pages is:

Visual Basic macros,
Revision Marks,
Org Charts,
Linked and Embedded Objects,
Mail Merge,
US Barcode printing
Master documents,
Grammar Checks,
Applescript ⚠,
Japanese furigana and Vertical Script,
Sorted tables
Table formulas
Word art
Drop Cap
AutoSave
Dictionary
Native Save of RTF and Doc
Split window
Autocorrect (initial double caps, teh, …)
Clever caps formatting (upper case of first letter in the sentences).

There are a lot of people who think most of them are useless, but to some they are very much needed.

Still, this doesn't make Word "better" of course - just different. There are features in Pages that aren't in Word as well.

Aug 3, 2005 10:45 AM in response to Henning von Vogelsang

OK, I would like to get into this conversation.

I am one that is always trying to find a better app, a better way, and I probably lose a lot of time doing so. I did run across a quote on my PDA/ Smart Phone quest that simply said - “The P in PDA is for Personal” and I guess with everything that is the bottom line. But with that said, I would like to share what I find nicer in Pages and to me, selfish as that is, it is Personal.

I am on my 3 go around in trying to make Pages work for me - why, I am used to Word, colleagues use Word, most of my staff uses Word, and if I change, well they (my staff) would really need to also - for some things. So this week a began my switch attempt (not saying I am not ever going to use Word) to make Pages my primary app. By the way, it is this board that keeps putting the oomph in my trying.

The first day, I was like a guy trying to quit smoking. I was having fits. Things that were quick to me became slow. I am used to the formatting pallet, not the inspector - I had to keep telling myself - it’s just like Keynote - you love Keynote.

The second day I found things better, making templates and getting the styles the way I like them.

I did my first lesson/ sermon (I pastor a church) in Pages, but struggled through it. Could not get things just right. But I was learning and it was at the least getting less painful. By the third or fourth day things were humming and I was still getting better, my nicotine fits were not as pronounce. By the end of the week and 2 more lessons I was finally liking what I was using, but there were some likes and dislikes (work arounds).

So the likes - it was so so much faster on layouts. The views, the ability to move things around, and the whole WYSIWYG of the app - what you see is what you get/got. I used styles in Word, but for some reason it is just faster and cleaner in Pages.

Next, I have come to really appreciate the System wide services of spell check and such, but most of all, I have finally truly fallen in love with the power of SpellCatcher (I know add on). I have used it for 3 years for just the basic, very basic, but combined with Pages to have this system wide is really nice and something that I like (personally) better.

Pages types faster, and there is NO comparison to the handling of graphics to Word, Pages is far superior.

On the dislikes, I agree with the lack of font choice in the menu bar, also with the lack text borders and page borders, word art, and such, but for me the most frustrating thing is that (I know it may be minor to some) is screen real estate. Pages takes 1 ½ times the space. I don’t use Helvetica 12pt - too big for me in print form, I use 11pt or 10pt. But in 100% view, even with LASIK I cannot see it. You have no view choice but 100% or 125% increments. So I have to go to page width. So that is fine but the template DOES NOT REMEMBER 110%, it takes you to 121% - FRUSTRATING! Also, why do new pages start ¼ of an inch from the left of the screen? Again, that is a waste of MY space. So my biggest gripe is that templates don’t retain how you completely set them up.

I have come up with a work around - I set the document up from the template like I prefer and then just saver it as a regular document - then it remembers everything - then I just us those - not perfect, but it works better - if I can only remember to save before I start typing!

Well, enough of the rant for me, bottom line, as in everything, it is personal. I can say though that every day I like it more and more. I believe it takes one going through the withdrawals to make it though. Change is Hard! Always.

Aug 3, 2005 1:04 PM in response to Magnus Lewan

You might not have found out about these things, but your list gets at least a little bit shorter if you know where to find these features:

- The Oxford Dictionary is built into the system with OS X Tiger
- Now you can click on a word and press cmd-ctrl-d and the system will show you the meaning of the word from the built in dictionary, without having to call up the application (this is something that works system wide, not only in Pages)
- Spell checking works system wide since OS X Jaguar, you can turn it on or off in the menu and you can let it spell chek as you type, or it gives you suggestions

As for revision marks, Word's collaborative feature, I am sure once Apple introduces this feature to Pages, it will be easier to handle than in Word. I'm with you though: it could become useful if used right.

The same goes for linked objects, or objects updating as you edit them. Illustrator for an example reminds me that the photoshop image I have edited has changed in the illustration where I used it. That's a nice feature; I can just click okay and it will stay in place, but update it's content.

Aug 8, 2005 9:30 AM in response to Henning von Vogelsang

I've been using Pages a few weeks now. I am creating booklets for school use and have always used Word in the past.

Simply, Pages just looks so much better and for my work, is quicker to use. I have designed two templates for two different subjects and within these, have developed standard fonts and sizes to use for questions, headings, footnotes etc.. This kind of thing was probably possible in Word, but I never found how.

I love how easy it is to create 'call-out' boxes, and because of the standard way I have used them through all booklets, students will quickly learn why they are there. Graphics import is so flexible and much quicker than trying the same thing in Word.

I just need an excuse now to spend some time with Keynote!

Aug 9, 2005 2:47 PM in response to Geoffrey Lo

You just explained the sole reason for Microsoft Word's success. It is a typical example of a bloated program that started with a simple intention and became overloaded with featured added by individual developer teams over the years. Now people are used to the awkward interface. This interface was rather built on "let's add that feature" than on "how do people work?".

Word vs. Pages: What exactly makes Word better?

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