How to handle Quotation marks?

Frank,

Option-Key ^ (= alt+^) ist eine Taste weniger als alt shiftw 😉

Christian,

to learn more about the Apple keyboard, launch Systemeinstellungen and choose Landeseinstellungen. Go to tab Tastaturmenü and mark both Tastaturübersicht and Tastaturmenü in der Menüleiste anzeigen.

You should then see the German flag in the Menüleiste. Click on the flag and choose Tastaturübersicht einblenden. Now, just press any key or key-combo to see which character will be inserted.

Viel Erfolg beim Ausprobieren.

Hallo Matthias,

danke für die Auskunft. Ich benutze die "macally ikey" Tastatur. Scheinbar arbeitet diese nicht korrekt mit Mac OS X 10.4.2 zusammen. Auch die "<" Zeichen sind nicht korrekt. Jetzt habe ich aber die richtigen Tasten gefunden.

Frank.

Does anyone know how to make an opening quotation mark („) on a Swiss keyboard?
The Tastaturübersicht says shift alt+commandw but this does’nt work.

Neither do alt+^ or alt shiftw.

Vielen Dank für Hinweise! Barbara

Command is not actually used for special characters on a Mac keyboard, even though things may appear there in Keyboard Viewer.

It looks to me like the Swiss German and Swiss French layouts are missing the character you need, at least on my US physical keyboard. European physical keyboards have an extra key which I can't check.

Barbara,

just switch to German keyboard layout and use alt+^ and alt+2 as described above.

To easily switch between several keyboard layouts proceed as follows:

* Open Systemeinstellungen
* Choose Landeseinstellungen
* Goto Tab Tastaturmenü
* In the list of countries, check Deutsch. "Schweiz, deutsch" or "Schweiz, französisch" should be checked by default
* Check Tastaturmenü in der Menüleiste anzeigen

Now you'll see the Swiss flag in the Menü. Click on the flag, choose "Deutsch", type alt+^ and alt+2 to insert „ and “. Switch back to "Schweiz, xxx" and continue writing.

Matthias -- Should this be necessary? Has Apple made an error with the Swiss layout? I notice it is the same in OS 9. It would not be too difficult to make a custom Swiss layout which fixes this I think.

Tom,

I'm not sure about an error.

It seems that the cmd-key causes the keys shown in Keyboard Viewer not to work. As you mentioned, cmd is used for -Рcommands. I switched to Swiss layout and tried several combos with cmd: shift-alt-cmd-w just beeps, shift-alt-cmd-q should result in Πbut logged me off (shift-cmd-q!). So, I think Keyboard Viewer isn't reliable on key combos with cmd.

Thus, I think the easiest way is to use my workaround. Keep in mind, once you've set up German and Swiss layouts to be accessible via menu, it's quite easy to switch between them.

Hmm, I see, my above posting isn't very clear. The steps described behind the bullets need only to be made one time. Then you just need to click on the flag to change to another layout.

How would you make a custom (Swiss) layout?

How would you make a custom (Swiss) layout?

I would take the OS 9 Swiss layout, open it with ResEdit, and switch one of the keys to the desired quote code. Such layouts can also be used in OS X.

Another way would be to make a custom layout from scratch with Ukelele:

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?siteid=nrsi&itemid=ukelele

Christian,

just press Option-Key ^ ' to get „ and Option-Key 2 to get “.

Hallo Christian,

um die einführenden Zeichen zu erhalten, musst du auf der deutschen Tastatur die Tasten "alt shiftw" drücken. Für die ausführenden Zeichen drücke die Tasten "alt+2".

Frank.

Hallo Frank,

freut mich, daß Dir meine kleine Beschreibung geholfen hat. Du kannst dafür die Meldung ja mit einem + bewerten 🙂

Hallo Matthias,

für solche Hilfen bin ich immer dankbar 🙂

Frank.

Hallo Barbara,

try the keys "shift alt<"^". Eventually this is the same error on your keyboard. Or try other combinations. Thats the only thing I can say about your problem.

Frank