Does mail calculate message size?

Hi all,
Since I upgraded to leopard, my outgoing email messages no longer indicate the size of the message on the message itself .
Its very frustrating to not be able to tell how big an attachment that I have just added has just made an email.. I can see the size if I go to the mailbox and look it up, but I used to be able to see it in the header or footer of the email itself.

Where did it go? is this a problem in leopard or just in my mail application? I think before the size calculator was at the top of each message.
does that exist in leopard?

is there a way to turn it on if it doesn't exist automatically?

thanks,
Katarina

Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.5.3)

Posted on Jun 18, 2008 11:57 AM

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Jun 21, 2008 8:53 PM in response to Mulder

Tiger Mail does do this -- at least my Tiger 10.4.10 Mail does. Create a new message and drag an attachment into the message body -- the larger "asciified" size of the draft message with attachment will be displayed at the bottom of the message window in its own field separate from the actual message body -- before the message is sent. Don't see that happening in Leopard Mail anymore.

I think a rough rule of thumb is to take attachment size times 8 divided by 7 to estimate how much larger that file attachment is going to make your email message.

Jun 22, 2008 9:14 AM in response to Mulder

Well, it does say "Message Size." And if you cut and paste a large .txt file (created by, say, Terminal's pico text editor) that is on the order of, say, 128 kB, into a blank email's message body, then concurrently open a new blank email message, then drag, for example, the same PDF file that is on the order of, say, 768 kB in size per Finder Get Info, into each of the new message's body, then the two "under construction" mail messages will, in fact, report two different "message sizes" at about 1000 kB for the "attachment-only" message and around 1.2 MB for the "text-plus-attachment" message. At least they just did for me. So I don't know what all is being reported there, but doing the above experiment would suggest that it is certainly something more than just what can be attributed to the size of the file attachment alone, to the tune of about 200 kB.

But all that aside, it is, nevertheless, unfortunate that this functionality has seemingly been removed from Leopard Mail. It was a convenient "safety check" for senders when dealing with recipients whose mail account providers were known to impose somewhat draconian inbound message size limitations, even if were not exact. It would be nice if there were a way to enable such functionality in Leopard Mail, rather than to have to rely on the soon-to-follow MAILER-DAEMON messages from the intended recipient's mailserver.

Jun 25, 2008 3:37 PM in response to j.v.

Hey Jv,
thanks for investigating and backing up that indeed Tiger used to calculate something that was pretty useful, and that function seems to have been removed in Leopard. Very frustrating. I can still get the info I need by going into the drafts mailbox and looking at the size of the email, but thats extra steps that I would love to avoid.
ah well.
thanks, Katarina

Jul 21, 2008 4:25 PM in response to Katarina Wittich

I'm new to the Mac. 3 Months. I send many picture attachments to family and friends. Until this morning I could see the estimated size on the lower left side of the message as I dropped pictures into it. quoted from the help file :

"When you’re composing a message, Mail displays the total size of the message, including images and other attachments, at the bottom left of the window." and..

"Resize the pictures. Mail inserts the image into the message in its actual size. Choose a smaller size from the Image Size pop-up menu at the bottom right of the window."

I was sending messages yesterday and it worked fine. It's missing today. I've tried to locate setting preferences but can find none. Any suggestions as to how to restore this? My OS is Leopard.

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