Creating formulas in Numbers - quick key to reference cells

Former Excel person, moving over to Numbers -- very simple question on how I can use keystrokes to reference cells when creating a formula, rather than typing in the cell or using the mouse. In Excel would just type "=", then could use the arrows keys to move around and go into the first cell for the formula, type "+", then arrow around to the second cell and hit Enter.

MBP, Mac OS X (10.5.3)

Posted on Jun 18, 2008 5:33 PM

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Jun 22, 2008 9:02 AM in response to MarcmCT

As Yvan has pointed out, Numbers offers an alternative to large spreadsheets, that being multiple tables & sheets. As you point out, moving around a large spreadsheet is not fast, even when using cursor keys (which I am assuming are the same thing as arrow keys, there being just the one set on my keyboard).

Assuming you can break your large spreadsheets down into smaller ones, you may find that navigation is remarkably quick because you can click on any table in any sheet to immediately jump to another one (even when creating cell or range references) rather than having to transverse large areas of a single spreadsheet one cell at a time.

If you are interested in exploring this approach, you may find my comments in the thread Generating values for grades useful as a description of how this can be applied when creating cell references in Numbers.

It may not be the right approach for your needs, but unless you know about it, you can't compare it to other approaches, right?

Jun 18, 2008 7:04 PM in response to MarcmCT

Numbers doesn't support referencing cells with the arrow keys. You can still type "=" in a cell to initiate a formula. If you're adding numerous cells together, then if you type "=" and click on each individual cell it will automatically insert them and put the plus sign between them by default. You don't need to hold any keys to select multiple cells, and you don't need to type in the plus signs.

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Jun 19, 2008 5:40 AM in response to MarcmCT

Apple engineers aren't Xerox photocopiers.

They study a problem, define a way to treat it and code the beast.
Sometimes they adopt known protocols, sometimes they don't and sometimes they "invent" new ways to do this or that.

Remember the slogan "Think different".

If we are unable to live with a feature available in the tool distributed by xyz, the best thing to do is to stay with this tool.

As I often wote, this forum proves that we live in a free world. I may write this kind of thing here and was never censored.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 19 juin 2008 14:40:46)

Jun 21, 2008 5:57 PM in response to KOENIG Yvan

Thanks jaxjason for pointing me out to the correct keywords to search, unfortunate to find out Numbers is missing one of the most important functions available for spreadsheet programs. I got a kick out of reading the Yvan rants on those threads - helped make sense out of the one he left for my question -- "Think Different" -- yes I know the slogan - I don't think they were referring to dropping critical program functionality. The fact is, Numbers is completely useless for any true hardcore spreadsheet user without being able to quickly create formulas via the arrow keys. Yes, Yvan, I've submitted this request to their engineers, but will need to return to the Excel until there's a change. Thanks to all those who tried to help with my question.

Jun 21, 2008 7:07 PM in response to MarcmCT

MarcmCT wrote:
The fact is, Numbers is completely useless for any true hardcore spreadsheet user without being able to quickly create formulas via the arrow keys.


Why? Does it really take longer, *on the average*, to click on a cell to reference it than to navigate to it with the cursor keys, or is it perhaps that it just seems that way because one way is more familiar than the other to some "true hardcore" users?

Jun 22, 2008 7:37 AM in response to R C-R

Yes, it actually does take longer. There is an incredible amount of time spent on spreadsheets in any finance job, moving around a large spreadsheet via the cursor key slows one down. The ability to use the cursor key isn't new or different -- Excel or any other good program allows that + arrow key navigation. Almost all hardcore spreadsheet users choose arrow keys, simply because it's so much faster - which must say something about user preference.

Jun 22, 2008 8:32 AM in response to MarcmCT

You are thinking the XL way.

Comparing Numbers to other spreadsheets is meaningless. They are different approach of number crunching.

Numbers is not designed for large sheets, it is designed for small linked tables.

Given that, from my point of view, trying to work with it the way you did in XL is sad.

You will always hit a wall for this or that reason.
The first one is, of course, the missing of many functions() required in the named area: finance job.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE dimanche 22 juin 2008 17:30:37)

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