Setting base IP address of Airport Extreme?!

I've recently replaced my Linksys hub with an Airport Extreme and everything is going well except for a problem I'm having designating a non-default IP address. I use a work PC wirelessly connected to my Airport Extreme and once connected VPN into my company's network. I use the Cisco VPN client which when configured allows me to also see my local network for things like network printing, however, the printer HAS TO BE LOCATED AT 192.168.249.10. In it's default config, the Airport Extreme is set to a base IP address of 192.168.249.1 and while I found that I can change it using the Airport Utility, doing so kills the connection with my cable modem so my local clients get IP addresses from the router, but the router has no connection to my ISP. I'm guessing this is due to having to disable DHCP (presumably on the back cable connection) if you want to set your own, user-defined IP address.

Anyone have any experience with anything like this? I've checked lots of websites and blogs, but have never found an answer and I have to say emailing docs from my PC to my Mac in order to print them is getting really old! 🙂

Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated.

BTW - the company I work for has a pilot program underway that may ultimately have all our sales groups (~1K) switching over to Macs! 🙂

Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.3)

Posted on Jun 20, 2008 10:42 AM

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Jun 20, 2008 2:30 PM in response to bbiess

I don't totally understand what you are saying about when you change the IP address of your AE how your clients then get their IP addresses from the router which has no connection to your ISP.

An alternative is to go back to your old setup and just hook up your AirPort Extreme up to your router. You could run it in bridge mode and assign it an IP address of 192.168.249.10 and then still allow your Linksys router to handle the DHCP of your private network. Computers could still use and take advantage of the 802.11n connection on your AE but actual IP addresses for the computers would be handled by your old router.

Jun 21, 2008 11:23 AM in response to bbiess

Sorry if I wasn't clear - it kind of a confusing subject. When I turn-off DHCP to manually assign an IP address on my AE all my wireless clients are still being issued IP addresses, however, my connections from those clients are ONLY to the router (local). It appears that by turning off DHCP, I'm turning off the AE's ability to be assigned an IP from my ISP.... at least, that's what it looks like.

Using the Linksys as the primary router will work, but then what's the point of the AE? I can pretty much do everything I'm doing with the AE with something else.

Jun 22, 2008 5:22 PM in response to bbiess

Still no luck. It looks like turning off DHCP in setup only effects my AE's ability of grabbing an IP adress from Comcast. Sort of like this:


Comcast
|
| (no IP assigned, so no connection to the Internet)
|
Airport Extreme (DHCP disabled) IP address set-to 192.168.249.10
| Never obtains an IP address from Comcast as it's assuming
| one is hard-coded vs. having one assigned via DHCP.
Clients (IP addresses being assigned)

This makes no sense to me. Why can't I configure my AE to use DHCP on the 'back-end' to grab a dynamic IP address from Comcast, but configure it's locally used IP address to whatever I want it to be? Is there some significance to 192.168.249.1? Why would I be prevented from changing it to whatever I felt like (like I'm attempting to do now)?!

Jun 22, 2008 5:42 PM in response to bbiess

Ok, there are two different settings that involve DHCP, one being the public IP address that is assigned to the AirPort and the other being the IP addresses that are assigned to the computers on the private network.

Before doing the following, I would hard reset the AirPort Extreme by holding the reset button on the back for 5-10 seconds, just so we can get a default onfiguration.

If you run AirPort Utility, go to Manual Setup, and click on Internet your Connection Sharing at the bottom should be listed as Share a Public IP Address. This enables your AirPort to be the gateway and to receive a public IP address from your cable provider. This should really already be enabled since you did a hard reset.

Now test to make sure you have an internet connection. If not, then you need to reset your cable modem. If after resetting your cable modem you still can't get internet connection then you need to call your cable provider and have then do whatever they need to do to get you a new IP address.

Now that you have a working internet connection you need to setup your private network. Run AirPort Utility, click on Manual Setup, and go to the Internet tab again. Write down the DNS servers you see listed. For Configure IPv4, you need to change the setting from Using DHCP to Manually. Enter the IP address as 192.168.249.10, the subnet mask as 255.255.255.0, the router address as 192.168.249.10, and then use the DNS Servers you just wrote down.

Now click on the DHCP tab next to the Internet Connection tab and select 192.168.249.100 as your beginning DHCP address. Ending address could be something like 192.168.249.200. Update your AirPort and then see if things are working correctly.

Jun 23, 2008 7:19 AM in response to Nachos Libres

Thanks for the instructions! I did as listed, however, when I set the IP and Router address to 192.168.249.10, the DHCP starting address as 192.168.249.100 and the ending address as 192.168.249.200 I can't save the configuration as an error occurs that prevents it. The router config reports - 'The DHCP range you have entered conflicts with the WAN IP address of your Apple wireless device'. Given that I'm unable to test the configuration to see if it works.

I've tried dozens of combinations of DHCP addresses. The config app seems to like 192.168.249.1 as the starting address (which doesn't make sense to me), but I've not found an ending IP address that works.

Any thoughts? BTW - REALLLLLLLY appreciate the help!!

Sep 13, 2008 10:50 AM in response to Amit Mehta1

I've never been able to get this working and I have to say, it's very bizarre and very disappointing that you can't actually change the default IP address on an Airport Extreme and/or the utility app is so poorly written that it either can't be done or is so confusing to do that you simply can't figure it out!

I'm shopping for a new router now, but can't seem to find one that provides USB ports that will work with my drives and printer. Once I do I'll be pulling the Airport Extreme off my network and going back to something with a little more configuration flexibility like a Linksys.

Oct 23, 2008 4:04 PM in response to MargotAV

Use a DHCP address range with a different third digit.

For example, if the utility complains 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.20 conflicts, use 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.20.

Any group of addresses in the range 192.168. x. y, where "x" is between 0 and 255 and "y" is between 1 and 254 will work for DHCP as long as the addresses aren't already in use by the WAN side of the router.

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