Hanging punctuation

Try Text Inspector > Tabs > Left and see if that gives you what you want.

Walt

If I understand well, as we are not allowed to give negative value to bullet indent, the response is no.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 27 juin 2008 21:23:06)

Evan,

This seems easy, so I'm probably missing something. Why not reduce the left margin by the amount of the hanging bullet space, set your Text Indent (in the Text Inspector > List pane) to the same amount so that your bulleted text will begin where the margin was, and set a Tab at the original margin location? Then just promote the normal paragraphs to the Tab position when you're not in list mode.

I tried that and didn't see any big problems.

Regards,

Jerry

Typographically, you are talking about hanging indents, not hanging punctuation. Hanging indendents were possible in the early editions of PageMaker, but hanging punctuation was made possible in QuickDraw GX and TrueType 2:1994 for Mac OS 7.5.

Best wishes,

Henrik

Hanging indents are common in virtually all word processors or DTP programs. But they do usually confine themselves to within the text block. Quark XPress and InDesign allow them to hang outside the text block, with InDesign's solution being far easier and more elegant.

I would have thought Apple's sophisticated ATSUI type rendering would allow for this, but then Pages does not seem to support everything the OS allows. It is not very good at alternate scripts for instance, which simple programs like TexTedit or iText Express can manage.

would have thought Apple's sophisticated ATSUI type rendering would allow for this

TrueType 2 in its ATSUI iteration is only partially implemented, for instance, TextEdit came from the NeXT side and was moved forward whereas WorldText came from the GX side and was moved backward (to oblivion, basically). Advanced abilities such as automatic copyfitting with smart typographic scaling (TrueType Variations) ... same old story that TrueType was intended as highend and ended up as lowend since it is a problem in PostScript. If Apple decides to compete, then it can do what should have been done a long, long, long time ago - provide a powerful native pagination tool for the Macintosh.

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Henrik Holmegaard wrote: provide a powerful native pagination tool for the Macintosh.

Oh yes please! s:-)