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Q: Retrieving data from Powerbook 3400 off hard drive/floppy drive to update

I have an old Powerbook 3400-the thing was barely used. Have to say the product still works, however it was made during a time when apple products were not what they are today. I stopped using it as it was very slow and cumbersome to use. Now I have old college data and partial books I have written that I would like to get off and I am not sure how to do so. It has an internal modem and infrared. However I have a new mac laptop that has bluetooth and obviously different connections than the old one, and the 3400 also has an internal ethernet card. How can I get my old documents off and onto and updated media so I can actually use them?

thanks,

heather

macbook, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier

Posted on Jul 13, 2008 5:50 PM

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Q: Retrieving data from Powerbook 3400 off hard drive/floppy drive to update

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  • by Sagesse,

    Sagesse Sagesse Jul 13, 2008 5:55 PM in response to hrasmus
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    Jul 13, 2008 5:55 PM in response to hrasmus
    I forget the details on OS 9, but essentially, you have to turn file sharing on on the 3400 hook an Ethernet cable to your new machine and then log into the old one using the new one. If you need detail, you will have to wait for someone else.
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jul 13, 2008 6:31 PM in response to hrasmus
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    Jul 13, 2008 6:31 PM in response to hrasmus
    First, you will need this article explaining how to make a small Ethernet Network:

    HT1433- Creating a small Ethernet network

    7.5.3 and later File Sharing
    Any Mac running 7.5.3 or later can share the files of any Mac running OS 9 or later using built-in File Sharing using IP. What is not supported beyond 10.3 is File Sharing via AppleTalk. In addition, Sharing initiated from your 10.4 or later Mac to a Mac before OS 9 is not supported directly. So you will have to make the connection from the Older Mac end. Alternatively, you could install "Shareway IP" (a low-cost utility) on the older Mac and connect from the newer Mac.

    You need an appropriate Ethernet connection, and each Mac must have a similar (but not identical) IP Address. On the 10.4 Mac: You must turn on File Sharing in your 10.4 Mac:
    System Preferences > Sharing > Services pane > \[X] Personal File Sharing
    and click ( Start )
    Look up the 10.4 Mac's IPv4 Address in System Profiler OR Network Preferences, and write it down for later. It may resemble 192.168.0.6

    On the Older Mac: open the Chooser and select AppleShare. Your 10.4 Mac will NOT appear in the right-hand pane, because it does not speak AppleTalk File Sharing protocol. But do not despair!

    It can speak IP protocol, if you ask it nicely. So click on the "Server IP Address" button on the bottom of the right pane, and enter the IPv4 Address of the 10.4 Mac. \[Your 10.4 Mac will act as the Server in this case.]

    The login screen that appears is sent to you from the 10.4 Mac. Enter a Username and password that is valid on the 10.4 Mac. Choose the drive(s) you want to mount, if there is a choice, and they will appear on the desktop of the Older Mac as shared Network Drives (Drive Icon with a cable coming out the bottom).

    Drag whatever you like to the newly-mounted drive. It will appear on the 10.4 Mac. Try to resist the temptation to drag your whole drive all at once. Move smaller batches in a thoughtful way, and you should have no problems.

    Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder
  • by hrasmus,

    hrasmus hrasmus Jul 20, 2008 4:14 PM in response to hrasmus
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    Jul 20, 2008 4:14 PM in response to hrasmus
    Thank you for answering my question. I did get it figured out but didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to actually view the old drive on my new mac, it is actually the opposite of what I thought.
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jul 20, 2008 9:06 PM in response to hrasmus
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    Jul 20, 2008 9:06 PM in response to hrasmus
    Your old Mac running 8.6 can share a Server's files (using IP protocol) but does not support sharing its own files (using IP protocol) with a 10.4 or later Mac without a third-party add-on program, about US$35:

    http://www.opendoor.com/shareway/

    Your MacBook running 10.4 or later can't share its files (using AppleTalk) or understand another Mac trying to share (using AppleTalk) because that feature was removed at Mac OS 10.4 in preparation for Intel Macs which would not be able to support sharing files via AppleTalk without a big re-write.

    301083- Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger: "Connection failed" error when connecting to an AFP server

    AppleTalk Printing is still supported in all current versions of Mac OS X.
  • by hrasmus,

    hrasmus hrasmus Aug 1, 2008 11:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Aug 1, 2008 11:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
    Grant,

    So if I download this software do I put it on the new mac? because I have no way of getting it onto the old mac. The files are transferred over to the new mac now, it just will not let me open them because it doesn't recognize the macwrite format. I have tried downloading a trial of the iWork and still they will not open. I have them transferred to the new mac and they are there, they just now open as a bunch of greek.
    Thanks.
  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Aug 1, 2008 11:45 AM in response to hrasmus
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    Aug 1, 2008 11:45 AM in response to hrasmus
    Shareway IP is useful for transferring files from older Macs. If your files are now on your new Mac, you are done transferring and will never need ShareWay IP.

    What I did not catch is, "What program created the original files?"
  • by macmikey2,

    macmikey2 macmikey2 Aug 6, 2008 4:55 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Aug 6, 2008 4:55 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
    If I missed this, please forgive me.

    To read most, if not all of your older files, ie; MacWrite, etc... you could use a very good app called MacLink Plus. It read and saves all kinds of formats and should have no issues at all with your older MacWrite stuff.

    Mike