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Spotlight server not working properly

I'm having a hard time with spotlight on our server. I've updated the server to 10.5.4 but still get the same problem. I've turn off spotlight for my sharepoints and volumes, deleted the .spotlight-V100 files, reindexed the whole thing. I worked for about for the rest of the day, then next day, I was back as when I first started the whole thing.

Here is what happen, if I do a search from one of my client, I get results which are not complete. I'll see some folders and some documents, but not all of them. If I browse the server with the finder, I can see those folders with no problem, so I don't think its a permission issue. It's like it has a cache file somewhere that it reverts to, after a little while. How can I delete that cache file if that's the problem and where is it?

TIA
Jeff

Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Jul 14, 2008 7:10 AM

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Sep 19, 2008 7:24 AM in response to MacBiXo

No luck with 10.5.5 update, still the following errors:

19.09.08 14:49:26 mds[87] (Error) Server: Peer checkin failed -- no store for path '/Volumes/HD2/Groups/1'
19.09.08 14:49:26 com.apple.AppleFileServer[419] MDSChannelPeerCreate: (os/kern) invalid argument
19.09.08 14:54:38 mds[87] (Error) Server: No store registered for scope "/Users/admin"
19.09.08 15:47:04 com.apple.AppleFileServer[419] MDSChannelPeerRequest: (ipc/send) invalid destination port

Apparently those errors arise when spotlight is asked from a client, and then when asked from the server spotlight returns incorrect results.

Already tried mdutil -i on, mdutil -E...

Any help would be appreciated.

Sep 29, 2008 9:22 AM in response to Jeff Lambert

Having the same issue here with Server 10.5.4. Hesitant to upgrade to 10.5.5 given the printing issues in Adobe Apps (admittedly on client machines) and working from server issues with 10.5.3.

I've tried Spotless, deleting indexes and re-starting Spotlight service, adding read-only permissions to everyone... +no luck+. Sometimes we'll get a few results, yet there are countless other files matching the search criteria. (Only file-name based, we don't do much searching contents)

I've had similar results as others in that after deleting the index, it seems to work for a day or so, then it's broken again.

Anyone else have any ideas or thoughts about 10.5.5?

Thanks!

Mike

Oct 2, 2008 7:09 AM in response to Mac Doc Mike

same here as well.
i figured out that, if i create a file on the server it shows up in spotlight, even when doing a search on a client machine.
if i create a file on a client machine it won't show up.
same happens when client machine is moving former shown files (created on server) in a differernt location.
seems to be a permission issue?
any ideas?
all the best,
markus

Oct 2, 2008 5:23 PM in response to hornson

look fellas...the AFP service and spotlight service is buggy at best....
doesnt matter what hardware you run or which 10.5.x software...
it doesnt work right period....all the points you guys made are valid.

here is the solution:

get a windows server box 2000 or 2003 or even an XP box
and run this http://www.grouplogic.com/products/extremeZ-IP/

super fast searches...indexing...i mean fast....works with all apple clients.
take the time to try it free...easy to setup up....works period...
no missing file nonsense...thats pretty much all they do and have excellent support.

i have started to abandon my xserves...and move this way...
hopefully with "snow leopard" they will finally address real issues...
and stop adding useless features....maybe get enterprise level
support where it should be...these servers are too expensive to have these stupid issues.

hopefully less engineering hours at iphone would make a difference.

good luck
Luis.


see my other posts in the 10.4.x forums.

personal info - i have 4 xserves runing 10.5.5, 10.4.11, 10.4.11, 10.3.9
and i support over 70 clients...so iam not talking out of my butt.

Oct 20, 2008 11:02 PM in response to Jeff Lambert

I don't know if this help everyone or not.
I have a 10.5.5 server with 2 internal drives and shares on both drives.
No combination of indexing, reindex, turning spotlight on and off works.
The only share i came make searchable from a client machine is the share that is location on the boot drive.
Why should this matter ??? but no one at apple support seemed to know this.
Once i moved my shares on to the boot drive, everything started to work the way you would think it shoudl.

Oct 30, 2008 6:27 AM in response to dkelley

Same problem here on Xsan.
3 Xserves and volume hosted on Xsan. Shares are reshared by the server to the clients.
A file created on a client en copied to the server=no search result in Spotlight.
A file created on the server on the Xsan volume = search result on client!

Changing the file permissions for everyone didn't help me....

All servers are 10.5.5. I will file a bugreport at Apple.

Nov 13, 2008 1:45 PM in response to Jeff Lambert

changing permissions does not work for me... chiming in to add another to the list of people encountering this problem. i've turned off spotlight for all the sharepoints, and i still get the log errors. sure would be nice if someone in Apple's engineering group could address this topic. but why spend time fixing leopard server when you can just put all your developers on another product... enter snow leopard server. 3000+ views of this topic ought to be a hint to someone over there that something's amiss..

Dec 18, 2008 4:32 PM in response to MacBiXo

Anyone know if the 10.5.6 update solves this? Looks like it might...

Spotlight provides more reliable results when remote users search a server volume with Spotlight searching enabled. Important: This change takes effect when you enable Spotlight searching on a sharepoint. In order to take advantage of this improvement on a sharepoint where you have already enabled Spotlight searching, disable Spotlight searching, save, re-enable Spotlight searching, and save again. The sharepoint will remain online during this process, but Spotlight searching will be unavailable for a short time while the index is rebuilt.

mm

Dec 19, 2008 5:39 AM in response to Jeff Lambert

Easy Solution:

In response to skinnypoo72's post wich said:
[look fellas...the AFP service and spotlight service is buggy at best....
doesnt matter what hardware you run or which 10.5.x software...
it doesnt work right period....all the points you guys made are valid.]

I do have to agree Spotlight is buggy, unusable and in no way a serious enterprise solution AND it shouldn't be that way... Apple what's wrong with You - don't You strive to be taken seriously in the enterprise field - THEN you should act accordingly, shouldn't You ?

...I'm taking care of dozens of Leo Servers at many customer sites... for example now just had a problem with an Xserve/Xeon-8-Core with XRAID's plenty of everything - using 400% of processing power for mds exclusivly - practically halting productive work for the whole ad agency AND still not finding many files.

...but contrary to skinnypoo72 advice, I would NEVER reccomend switching to a Windows box at all - but simply & easy - just shut down Spotlight alltogether on all shared volumes !
+ provide Your Clients/Users with the Freeware search tool "EasyFind" from devon-technologies.com and Your Problems are just history 🙂 It searches manually now withouth index - and DOES find everything, just a UNIX find with a nice GUI - easy 🙂

Jan 7, 2009 9:32 AM in response to Jeff Lambert

We deployed our first Intel Xserve about 2 weeks ago with 10.5.6. About a week ago, Spotlight server started having some issues where one Tiger client would get zero results searching the shares. Then two days later, there was a handful of Tiger clients with the same issue. On Monday, the issue cleared up. Yesterday, one by one, Tiger clients stopped having the ability to search the shares, while Leopard clients (10.5.5 & 10.5.6) continued fine. A reboot of the server cleared up the issue.

We use POSIX permissions and specific ACLs to control access. Our POSIX Other group is set to "none" on all the shares. I noticed that with 10.5.6 that a Spotlight ACL gets added to each shared volume. That wasn't present on 10.5.5 (even though we deployed the server with 10.5.6 out of the gate, we tested 10.5.5 & 10.5.4).

Since we deployed the server with 10.5.6 and we re-indexed all of our existing shares, I'm not sure that 10.5.6 solves all Spotlight issues, as it is odd how we lost all Spotlight ability on every single Tiger client.

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