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3714 Views 7 Replies Latest reply: Jul 18, 2008 5:49 PM by Grant Bennet-Alder
Currently Being ModeratedJul 16, 2008 9:46 AM (in response to Tina Siegenthaler)It seems very unlikely that you have two of these Macs with dead power supplies, unless you bought them that way, and have evidence of sparks, smoke, or burned stuff.
Many Macs will misbehave and may not start at all if their PRAM Backup battery is low. For debugging, remove the PRAM battery if it is under 3.2 Volts and reset the PRAM/PMU using the tiny button nearest the battery. Hold for about a quarter minute, then wait at least five seconds before attempting to restart.
Those power supplies also have an internal fuse on the AC input, but the supplies must be opened to access it. It should only blow when the supplies have had way too much current drawn, such as from a short-circuit on one of the outputs.
Power supplies are routinely harvested from otherwise-dead Macs and resold on eBay for cheap.Beige G3,G3 B+W,G4/867,G4/MDD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.4 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter LQ
Currently Being ModeratedJul 16, 2008 12:02 PM (in response to Tina Siegenthaler)The AGP has a 20 pin power supply, but requires mod of the ATX supply. See:
Power Macintosh G3 (Blue and White) and Power Mac G4: Power Supply Voltage Test
G4 (AGP/Sawtooth) to ATX case Conversion
Don't know if these are available, but check this out.
Power Supply Adapters
I believe that the Quicksilver has the 22 pin supply like the G4 Gigabit Ethernet. See http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=95064
Cheers, Tom G4 AGP 400, G3 400 FW Pismo, OS X (10.4 + 10.3), OS 9.2.2, DSL, Zip, Canon LiDE30 Scanner, CD-RW, Canon i960 Printer, Belkin UPS
Currently Being ModeratedJul 17, 2008 3:17 AM (in response to Tina Siegenthaler)I have to confess that in the case of these two machines, I did test neither the battery nor the power supply with a voltage meter. But these are not the first G4 power supplies I've had failing, and in the other cases, it definitely WAS the power supply (tested with voltage meter, then replaced the dead ps with a new one, and the machines are now working again).
But you are right, just because of this, I shouldn't surmise that another G4 that does not boot also has a dead power supply, but I should test it! Going to do that right away.
We are now checking on ebay whether we can find power supplies for the G4s, or at least some equivalent model.
Thanks, TinaG5 Dual 1.8, 23'' Cinema Display, Mac OS X (10.4.5), iMac G4/800, iBook G3/700, G4/400, iBook G3/366, iMac G3/233, PM 7200, Mac SE
Currently Being ModeratedJul 17, 2008 1:53 PM (in response to Tina Siegenthaler)I'm also looking for a new power supply unit for a Mac G4.
My dad's G4 has a 237 W box, and I'm looking for something with a little more kick. I was referred to http://atxg4.com by the same folks that I bought processors and hard disks from, for three computers.
This site sells prefabricated adapters for various ATX power supplies.
I also went by the local computer shop and asked about PSUs there and was told that Apple uses proprietary power boxes, as does Dell, so finding one that will work and give a fair amount of juice will be hard.
On the other hand, if you're looking for a part out of a mac to put into another, then ebay would be a good place to look.
Message was edited by: CnzG4 (DA), generously modified., Mac OS X (10.4.11), 1.733 GHz G4 Single Core, 1.25 GB SDRAM, GeForce 7800GS OC, 80 GB + 500 GB HDD.
This article may add a little insight. Read Carefully the notes at the top regarding the 28 Volt supply -- especially if you intend to use an ADC display!
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ATXG4_AGP_conversion/G4_AGP_to_ATXcase.htmBeige G3,G3 B+W,G4/867,G4/MDD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.4 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter LQ
Currently Being ModeratedJul 18, 2008 2:39 PM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)Well, thing is that my dad's G4 AGP, which I'm trying to find a PSU for, isn't using an Apple Display.
What I really would like to do is find a PSU that will physically fit, as well as work correctly with it with out frying it. What's more, can I pick just about any 20 pin PSU, plug in the adapter for it, and let her rip, or is there anywhere I need to go in particular for a G4 AGP PSU that puts out more than 300 W?G4 (DA), generously modified., Mac OS X (10.4.11), 1.733 GHz G4 Single Core, 1.25 GB SDRAM, GeForce 7800GS OC, 80 GB + 500 GB HDD.
Page 2 of the article above shows exactly what wires to modify to turn an off-the-shelf ATX supply into a supply for any G4 up to Gigabit Ethernet G4. Includes wiring diagrams and photographs:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ATXG4_AGP_conversion/G4_AGP_to_ATX_casepg2.htm#nextBeige G3,G3 B+W,G4/867,G4/MDD, Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier, and 9.2, 10.4 and Server - LW IIg, LW 4/600, ATalk ImageWriter LQ