Is there a freedom to talk on this forum ?

What's going on is very simple:

You broke the terms of use that you agreed to when you signed up to the forum under one or more of the four headings.

Regards

TD

If your post contained any of the listed, unacceptable topics, it will be pulled. This forum is not the only source of information on the Internet. Everyone, you included, is free to post whatever they want on their own websites. This, however, is Apple's website and they get to make the rules.

Best of luck.

Your post does appear to have some helpful information. That may be why the moderators did not remove the whole thread altogether. I find it interesting that you are complaining about Apple removing posts when the content that they haven't removed is still in violation of the terms of service:

Everybody is facing crappy battery performance on their new iPhone 3G.
The big question is, Did Apple already know that the iPhone 3G are shipped with BETA firmware ?

Both of these items are prohibited, and, yet, they weren't removed. You are a new poster and they seem to be bending their own rules for you by only removing the worst offenses.

Just remember that this is a tech-support forum. It isn't a place for any sort of speculation, ranting, or rumor-mongering. Putting statements like those above in a posting really isn't helpful or appreciated. They are liable to start rant sessions, flame wars, or just get otherwise useful information deleted.

And, to answer your question, all products, software and hardware, are released with known bugs. Everyone does it. It is impossible to avoid bugs. If you find problems, you should report them using official Apple feedback channels or via bug reports, if you have an ADC account. Those reports are helpful and are appreciated because they help improve the product for everyone. Apple, like any company, tries to make 1) a profit, 2) make the best product they can, and 3) stay ahead of the competition.

Hi etresoft,

Both of these items are prohibited, and, yet, they weren't removed. You are a new poster and they seem to be bending their own rules for you by only removing the worst offenses.

I would agree and only add, that after reading the topic myself, that the moderators have "bent over backwards" in regards to allowing as much as they have of the OP's topic to remain.

It appears they (the moderators) are being very generous in the 3G forums due to the fact that it has so many first time Mac/PC users/posters here in Discussions.

To my mind, even more would have been removed if it had been any other forum here in Discussions. Personally, I think the OP should be very grateful that they have been allowed to post what they have and for as much to remain.

Apple Discussions Use Agreement

regards,

littleshoulders 🙂

If you want to discuss issues that are not acceptable to talk about here, there are plenty of other forums that will allow you to do that.

Instead of complaining about battery performance, ask how to improve your performance. http://www.apple.com/batteries/ explains that!

a brody wrote:
Instead of complaining about battery performance, ask how to improve your performance. http://www.apple.com/batteries/ explains that!

I found the best way to improve battery performance:
1. Charge Battery
2. Turn off iPhone and leave it off.

Think I should submit it to feedback? 😉

Can't hurt:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Turning off an iPhone would be pointless though since the person who owned the iPhone would be unable to receive calls anymore. Charging the battery & making sure to completely discharge it before re-charging it might help even more though.

Unless the iPhone is very different from other AT&T phones, your phone calls simply get redirected to voice mail, which you can check when you turn your phone back on. Your phone does not have to be on for messages to be sent to voice mail. AT&T appears to have its own data center for voice mail.

There isn't a freedom to talk, but we actually agreed to that when signing in.
I still humbly ask that single posts should be edited if they are in contradiction with the terms and not the whole thread.

spintwin wrote:
I still humbly ask that single posts should be edited if they are in contradiction with the terms and not the whole thread.

Sometimes they are. Usually, the whole thread is only deleted if the entire subject of discussion is against the terms of use OR if the thread has become too convoluted to prune the objectionable bits.

There is plenty of freedom to talk. Simply stay within Apple guidelines for posts.

If something extends beyond the guidelines, and involves Apple, write or call.

I understand the need to vent but doing so in a public forum, in my opinion, is tantamount to exhibitionism.

ryanka wrote:
There is plenty of freedom to talk. Simply stay within Apple guidelines for posts.

Kinda reminds you of the old joke:

American:
"We have freedom of speech in the USA; I can stand in front of the White House and yell 'Lyndon is a jerk' "

Russian:
"We have freedom of speech in the USSR; I can stand in Red Square and yell, 'Lyndon is a jerk' "

😉

Spintwin,
They often are. There are only so many moderators, and so many threads they can edit. If you don't feel it is enough call AppleCare.