360 degree Panoramics in Motion?

Is it possible to create 360 degree panoramics in Motion?


I'm not necessarily looking for the up and down motion but certainly the left to right motion.

example here:
http://www.outerspace-software.com/images/bixorama/bixorama.mov

2x2.8Ghz Quad-core Intel Xeon, 8GB RAM, Final Cut Studio 2, Mac OS X (10.5.1)

Posted on Jul 26, 2008 12:27 PM

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Jul 26, 2008 12:43 PM in response to Bansaw

Referenced link is QTVR.

QTVR is unable to be imported into Motion. Furthermore it is impossible for a user to control the viewing of the image upon Motion export even if it were possible. You can take an image larger than the canvas and animate it to pan the image or even better put a video camera on a tripod and pan 360 and import your "360 degree movie" into Motion.

If you want QTVR you have to use an alternative application to produce the QTVR movie. Here is a very easy app I use sometimes when I want something done fast.

Hope that helps!

Jul 26, 2008 12:36 PM in response to  Certified

Thanks, - ... yes this is an example of something I would like to create in Motion, - something similar.
Not to give the user any control or anything, but all I want to know is how to position my panoramic photographs so that I can put a camera at the centre and sweep around.
Also the up and down views are not important, just 360 left & right.
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Jul 26, 2008 12:41 PM in response to Bansaw

As previously stated:

put a video camera on a tripod and pan 360 and import your "360 degree movie" into Motion


If you already have images you would like to make a 360 movie out of line them up using referenced app as 180 degree image or use Photoshop to stitch the images then dolly camera horizontally or animate images to create 360 panoramic simulation. Using a video clip of a camera on a tripod panning in a complete circle is the best method for Motion use given this situation.

hth

Jul 26, 2008 12:50 PM in response to  Certified

Its hard to get a uniform smooth movement when you're panning 360 degrees even on a good fluidhead tripod. Yes, a partial sweep of 180 you could get looking smooth but when you're moving your feet it gets a bit tricky.
Getting a uniform speed in the pan is the tricky bit.

You could do the pan in sections, 90 degrees at a time and then edit it together after, but stills just seemed to be a better idea for me.
If they are high res I can zoom in here and there too...


...I'll try the photoshop stitch thing/dolly idea...

Jul 27, 2008 1:00 PM in response to Patrick Sheffield

"...You know you can create this with Apple's QTVR software using stills, right?..."

Well, actually it's really someone else's software that's going to let you spit out a movie that QT understands. So yeah, the playback engine will be QT, but the development environment will not be. Apple used to make software that would allow you to build these. But it died a while back. Never made it through to OS X.

I can tell you how to pull this off. However, I doubt this is going to be helpful to you because:
A.) I'm not going to mention Motion one time in the workflow.
B.) It's going to require several somewhat expensive but not-very-versatile items.

You would need:
1. A tripod head designed for this sort of work. Something from Kaidan, for example.
2. Software like RealViz Stitcher or PTMac to stitch the pics. You'd export one big "cylindrical" image.
3. After Effects and Trapcode's new plug-in, Horizon. If you watch some of the demo movies, ( like this) its' exactly what you're talking about.

So again, I apologize to refer to all this stuff that you likely don't have. (And requires spending a bunch of money if not.) One way to get a little closer might work if you have Photoshop. You could attempt to run a "Photo Merge" on your pics then spit out your "cylindrical" image. But the image stitching will only be as good as the original images. And without one of these specialty tripod heads, the stitching is going to be a nightmare. (As in: tedious w/mediocre results.) But even if you made it that far, the question then becomes, "can you map a picture to the inside of cylinder in Motion and put your camera inside of it"?

I think it's time to get really creative! Good luck with it.

BTW: Is this for a paying gig or just having fun / learning ?

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