Hard Disk Failure in G5 Power Mac, need to replace it, i have some question

In my G5 Power Mac, the hard disk has totally gone and i need to replace it.. can someone point me to a guide on how to do this? Im usually a PC kinda guy so this is a bit new to me.

1) Will any SATA HDD work? does it have to be a certain brand?
2) When the new drive is in, will it auto detect and automatically run the leopard installer of the disk?
3) Is there anything i should be careful of or is it pretty straight forward?

any links or suggestions would be grand!

thanks in advance!

Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Jul 28, 2008 3:02 AM

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Jul 28, 2008 3:55 AM in response to mkwomble

If you have a PowerMac G5 (PowerPC) there are two SATA drive bays A and B.

There are online pdf manuals for Do It Yourself to installing drives, where the screws are, etc. And the forum for G5s where there are a number of threads on adding, replacing and installing drives is here:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=108

Links to How To and manuals are here:
http://www.apple.com/support/powermac/

Your PowerMac would have come with a small booklet also with photos instructions on adding drives, memory, etc.

As for what drive to get, size? price or any other concern?

When a raw drive is inserted it needs to be initialized and there should be a pop up screen asking if you want to, the only thing that will do is launch Disk Utility where you will have to choose the drive and partition it as needed. It will not install Leopard.

If you are going to install Leopard you need to boot from a Leopard DVD and go to "Utility" menu just before beginning install, or you can also choose Install Options to do Erase and Install I think.

If you have a more recent Intel Mac Pro there are no cables to connect and four drive sleds that you just pull, screw drive to sled, and slide back in. It also uses PCI Express graphics (so does the dual-core and quad-core G5).

Do you have AGP graphics? check system profiler or "About This Mac... more" button from Apple menu for detailed profile info. CPU, number of processor cores, etc, RAM type.

Jul 28, 2008 4:25 AM in response to mkwomble

You would need to hold option key or 'c' to boot from Leopard.

A really badly damaged drive can prevent booting from any disk, whether CD/DVD or hard drive, because the system still tries to see if there are other systems out there when it scans the various buses for bootable devices.

You probably need to unplug or pull the old drive to do anything. But you may be able to zero the drive. Partitioning checks the blocks where the partition tables will go, because those blocks can't be remapped later, and some drives fail at that point, but re-partitioning, not just erasing the user partition, is something I do frequently.

Is the 2nd drive bay filled? definitely want to use both drive bays.

Got a FW or other emergency boot drive handy? or small partition on a media drive that has just minimal OS X.

When swapping drives on G5s, NVRAM doesn't always 'learn' or see the new drive properly, so best to zap PRAM/NVRAM or reset nvram to clear the device tree and force it to rescan and recognize new devices (PCI, memory, and hard drives).

I would definitely want a working clone/backup and keep Alsoft Disk Warrior on it to repair and do maintenance of your drives on a regular basis to prevent problems from getting worse.

If you need to recover data, pull the drive and later see if Data Rescue II can see any files. You may need to repair the drive. And Apple First Aid comes up short on disk repairs and doesn't do as many tests and repairs as Disk Warrior.

I always keep a backup spare on hand that I can use if a drive goes out.
http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html

Jul 28, 2008 5:08 AM in response to The hatter

thanks again, that makes sense to me just about.

I have now gone out and bought myself a new SATA drive, will unplug the faulty maxtor one and try getting a fresh install of leopard installed and worry about getting the data off the old drive.

luckily my machine is on a network and another machine backs up all the important files with retrospect so ive not lost anything, just want a working mac back really!

Whats the best way to try and recover parts from the old broken disk? should i plug it back in again and run diskwarrior on it? it wont try and boot from it all of a sudden will it?

Jul 28, 2008 5:25 AM in response to mkwomble

You would need something like USB/FW case that works with SATA drive. Something just for emergency probably, so you can plug in and mount it after the system is up and running.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/

There is an all-purpose kit for about $30.

Even though everything is backed up, have local bootable 2nd drive?

Also, might want to consider having one drive just for OS and apps, 2nd for data and media and home folder, or do you use the server or external RAID storage for editing? If you don't want to have down-time, a RAID mirror, just be sure to buy a 2nd matched drive. Creating a RAID means having to destroy existing files.

What I use are SuperDuper clone for backup of the system so I can restore the system. And avoid having to install, update and configure. SD can use a sparse disk image as well as a regular disk partition. Disk Utility Restore can also be used to create and restore, but won't do smart updates.

If you don't need to recover files, I would just nuke the drive or zero it out - and if it passes a full disk zero, might use it or part of it for running Disk Warrior, TechTool Pro, etc.

Jul 28, 2008 8:58 AM in response to The hatter

thanks for your help i was able to install leopard on my new hard drive and it works like a treat, i then put the old faulty one in the second bay and it mounted it and let me copy over most of the files, some didnt copy and the drive made clicky noises, but i got the important info. One of the partitions seemed to not work but the other one did, so ill keep in in there, format it and use it for time machine.

thanks again mate!

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