Charging the 3G iPhone - My Personal Workaround

Hi everyone, here is my own solution for charging the iPhone 3G in the car. This may not be a solution that works for you, but may help you in finding one. I'll summarize the entire project, but if you just want to see the pictures, you can scroll down to the bottom of the post.

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I was one of the many people who were disappointed to find out that the iPhone 3G no longer supports charging via the firewire pins, which means that most car chargers, and many audio docks are no longer able to charge the new iPhone. As a result, my iPhone experiences the most battery drain in the car, while using GPS, 3G, taking calls, and listening to music. And like many iPod/iPhone owners, I have invested a lot of money in an iPod integration kit.

Because the iPhone still of course supports charging via USB, I thought of the idea to somehow take the 12v firewire and step it down to 5v using a voltage regulator, and then route it to the appropriate USB pins. All the other used pins would remain unaffected. Utilizing my high school electronics skills, this seemed like a feasible and inexpensive solution to my problem; I would be able to charge the iPhone while retaining all functionality.

Looking at my USA-Spec PA11 iPod interface, the iPod dock connector is a detachable cable which connects to an 8-pin mini din jack on the interface. I figured that the easiest way to incorporate the regulator was to replace this existing cable with a custom-made one. I would house the PCB and all components in a separate enclosure, drilling two holes on either end. One side would connect to the mini din jack, the other side would connect to the iPhone.

Studying the existing iPod cable, I found that it used 3 surface mount resistors, one surface mount fuse, and the following pins:

2 - AV GND
3 - Line Out (R)
4 - Line Out (L)
12 - Serial Send (330 ohm resistor in series)
13 - Serial Receive
18 - 3.3v (330 ohm resistor)
19/20 - Firewire 12v
21 - Accessory Indicator (connected to Pin 30 via 510k ohm resistor)
29/30 - Firewire GND

With this information, I now know that Pin 19 (Firewire) is where the 12 volts is coming from. I need to step it down to 5 volts using an LM7805, and connect it to Pin 23 (USB). I will use the exact same resistors found on the iPod cable. I won't be needing the fuse, because the LM7805 will provide all the voltage and temperature protection that I will need.

Charging the iPhone isn't simply a matter of applying 5 volts to the USB Pins. In order to initialize charging, the iPhone must "see" a certain voltage on the USB data pins (specifically ~2.8v on Pin 25 and ~2v on Pin 27). Because of this I had to incorporate a voltage divider network to provide the appropriate voltages.

So, the pinout above will remain virtually the same, except Pin 19 will be replaced with Pins 23 25 27, and Pin 29 will be replaced with Pin 15.

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So here is a link to the photos of my 3G charger:

http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d160/francislamiel/3G%20Charger/?albumview=sli deshow

It works flawlessly, and all the parts/materials cost me under $30. When I bought the reisistors, I bought them in packs of 100 when I only needed 1 of each for the project (for some reason it actually costs more to buy a 3-4 pack).

If anyone is willing to try to make something like this, feel free to ask me any questions. Hopefully this helped a few people, thanks for checking it out!

Resources:
http://pinouts.ru/Devices/ipod_pinout.shtml
http://www.tzywen.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=696&mode=thread&ord er=0&thold=0

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Posted on Jul 31, 2008 4:41 PM

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Jul 31, 2008 10:17 PM in response to seabreeze1982

Thanks Frank. As I said earlier, I already have an existing iPod integration kit, which allows me to listen to music, skip tracks, and adjust the volume through my in-dash cd player. The purpose of "my" charger was to be able to charge my iPhone while still being able to keep my $200 iPod adapter. A standard charger would not let me do this.

Other people have used USB chargers with a "pass through" dock connector, but it would not only occupy your cigarette lighter, it requires an extra connector, an extra cable, etc.. Also, I think they go for $35 plus taxes and shipping.

Aug 2, 2008 4:51 AM in response to Francis L

Hi Francis!

Your solution is quite complicated and expensive. I got away with soldering 2 200K resistors (providing 2.5V to both D+ and D-) into a 1€ sync cable to charge the iPhone from a 5V solar battery, and if you have 12V in your car, just add a voltage regulator or just a few diodes.

See my little description: http://debaer.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/charging-the-iphone-3g-from-a-low-cost-so lar-battery/

deBaer

Aug 2, 2008 6:16 AM in response to Frank Malloy

Frank Malloy wrote:
But, can't you easily buy a USB car charger for less than $30?


Or a home charger for the same price. Some of us don't drive our cars to work anymore, being the $4 a gallon life we're in now. I just purchased an A/C adapter charger from Belkin and when at work, I plug in the 3G to that and the adapter to the local outlet we have minus a surge protector that we need.

Aug 2, 2008 6:49 AM in response to MikePerry

The problem is for folks like me that have an existing iPod docking kit in our cars (like my BMW kit), that lets me use my car audio controls to see and control the ipod. BMW and others apparently used the firewire wiring and so the same connector that connects the iPhone to the car no longer charges it.

My solution is to just keep an old iPod hooked up to the car and use my iPhone bluetooth (which is what you have to use anyway) for the phone handsfree connection.

Aug 2, 2008 3:33 PM in response to Adalipu

Adalipu wrote:
Hi Francis!

Your solution is quite complicated and expensive. I got away with soldering 2 200K resistors (providing 2.5V to both D+ and D-) into a 1€ sync cable to charge the iPhone from a 5V solar battery, and if you have 12V in your car, just add a voltage regulator or just a few diodes.

See my little description: http://debaer.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/charging-the-iphone-3g-from-a-low-cost-so lar-battery/

deBaer


If you read my post you'd see why my solution is so "complicated". It's not meant for only charging.

Its a replacement for the cable that my iPod interface uses. Its cheaper than the $45 'converter' by Ridax.
http://home.swipnet.se/ridax/connector.htm?connipod.htm

JoeZinVA wrote:
Or a home charger for the same price. Some of us don't drive our cars to work anymore, being the $4 a gallon life we're in now. I just purchased an A/C adapter charger from Belkin and when at work, I plug in the 3G to that and the adapter to the local outlet we have minus a surge protector that we need.


Of course this will work... But I already explained why it wouldn't in my situation, you can't compare it to a wall charger because it serves a different purpose.

Aug 7, 2008 1:37 AM in response to Francis L

Hello FrancisL,

i am from Austria. Sorry, but my english is not the best ! I have a question. Before i read your post i think the data (Interpret, genre ....) will send to the car radio over the usb pins (25 and 27). Is this not correct ? Now i think the
way is pin 12 and 13, because on pin 25 and 27 i need a fix voltage !?! Is this correct ?

greetings from Austria !!

Aug 17, 2008 12:50 AM in response to Thomas IPhone

thanks everyone!

that's right, pin 25 and 27 need a fixed voltage. otherwise, the iPhone will not charge. Pins 12 and 13 are used to change tracks or play/pause. h

just a quick update: originally the resistance i used on pin 21 was 488k (should be 510k) because i made an error in calculating the resistors in parallel. This caused the iPhone to randomly pause music whenever I open an application (like maps). I fixed it so now the resistance is 513k. I still get random pauses (very rarely), maybe using an even higher resistance would help, but I might just wait for the "official" cable USA spec will send.

Aug 27, 2008 11:25 AM in response to Francis L

Hi Francis,

Great post, thanks for sharing your solution. I'm about to try this myself, I have a Peripheral iPod2Car kit that I was disappointed to find out won't charge my 3G. I do have one question to field before I start hacking things apart (unfortunately the Peripheral branded cable isn't nearly so friendly to take apart as your USA-Spec seemed to be).

On the pinouts.ru site, they describe pin 25 thusly:
USB Data ➕
Pins 25 and 27 may be used in different manner. To force the iPod 5G to charge in any case, when "USB Power 5 VDC" (pin 23) is fed, 25 must be connected to 5V through a 10kOhm resistor, and 27 must be connected to the Ground (for example: pin 1) with a 10kOhm resistor.

You described these pins as requiring ~2.8V and ~2V, which you provided with a voltage divider. Did you try following the above scheme and tying pin 25 to 5V through a 10k resistor and 27 to ground with a 10k? Might it accomplish the same thing, creating a voltage divider from 5V with the 10k resistor and the internal load impedance of pin 25? Why the different approach?

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