Converting 23.98 to 25...need help

Hi There,
I have footage that was captured 23.98 and needs to be given to the client in a finished format of 25fps. I've never converted to that frame rate because I don't work in PAL. The final export has to be a .avi file at 25fps. How do I properly convert from the current frame rate to 25fps? Under the encoder do I just go to video settings and choose 25? I tried that and it looks really jumpy about every second so I can see the frame it's duplicating. Is there a better way or would After Effects be better? Any suggestions would be great!

Thanks!

Posted on Aug 1, 2008 8:11 PM

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Aug 3, 2008 10:16 PM in response to Kristin Russell

Have you looked at cinema tools?

FCP has a conform tool as well.

Have you checked the manual? It's a good habit to try searching the electronic version of the manual.

FCP -> Help -> FCP manual

search for 25
about halfway down the page.

It took me about 3 minutes to find this.

Conforming 25 fps Video to 24 fps
In countries that use PAL video, film is sped up by 4 percent (from 24 to 25 fps) and
then transferred to PAL video. You can capture and edit the PAL footage and then
deliver a 25 fps EDL (instead of a traditional cut list) to the negative cutter, who
matches the 25 fps timecode back to the original film edge codes.
However, one of the problems with the method described above is that the original
audio is 4 percent slower than the PAL video containing the sped-up film footage, so
you can’t match the audio to your video in Final Cut Pro. To avoid this problem, you can
use the Conform 25 to 24 command to slow your PAL video footage back to 24 fps.
Unlike reverse telecine, which must actually remove fields or frames of video, the
Conform 25 to 24 command simply slows the duration of each frame by 4 percent
so that the footage plays back more slowly at the film’s original 24 fps rate.
To conform a 25 fps clip to 24 fps in Final Cut Pro:
1 In the Browser, select one or more clips you want to conform from 25 fps to 24 fps.
2 Choose Tools > Conform 25 to 24.
The clips are conformed to 24 fps.
If any of the selected clips are not 25 fps, a warning appears stating that one or more
clips will not be processed.
Important: Conforming a clip modifies the original media file. If you need to undo the
conform process, you must use the Conform feature in Cinema Tools. Additionally, you
must have read-and-write privileges for the media files you want to conform.

Message was edited by: StephenZcat

Sep 5, 2008 4:28 PM in response to StephenZcat

That bit of the manual is mainly talking about going from 25 to 24. Not what was asked if you read the question.

I have the same problem. 24.0 fps clip that I'm putting onto a PAL DVD reel [25 fps], lots of different footage and this is the one giving me the problem. Have the jump every second or so too. I had already tried speeding clip up in FCP project to 104% but still got the jump every second!

There must be a way!!! Will keep you posted....

Sep 5, 2008 5:11 PM in response to Louisa Fitch

Welllll..... it was easier than I thought in the end. Here's what happened.

24fps .mov using photo jpg compression > put into my FCP project which is all at 25fps. > Export to use in a DVD via compressor using 'DVD best Quality 90mins' >
Outputs fine except 24 fps clip which stutters every second or so, looks horrible.

The Fix

Open Cinema tools and create a new Database > It will pop up a window asking to Choose default database settings, I set it to > Film standard :35mm 4p >Video TC rate: 25 > Sound TC rate: 25 > Telecine Speed: 25 - I don't know if you need to do this but I did. Save the database as something when asked.

you will be presented with a couple of windows, ignore them.

Now go to FILE > Open Clip - Choose the original 24fps clip. It will open in a window.

In the bottom right of that window will be a button called 'Conform' click it and you'll get another window!!

Choose 25 fps and press OK. Now quit cinema tools and open up your original 24 fps clip in quicktime, and if you get info you will see it is no longer 24 but a smooth playing 25 fps clip!!

Might want to do the above on a copy of the 24fps clip to preserve it.


It's late and I'm, going to bed, sorry for bad English etc, can't be arsed checking at mo' goodnight..

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