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Lost equalizer presets

Howdy. Starting yesterday, each time I re-launch iTunes, all my equalizer presets are gone. Every one I created over the last year is lost. Any new ones I create, even though I can save them under 'make preset,' are not there when I re-launch. I have done regular upgrades, which have never caused this problem. I have the latest version. I find no reference to the problem on any discussion groups. Has this happened to anyone else? Why did this happen? Is there a limit?

Also -- Each week when I back up I also save the iTunes Music Library.xml and iTunes Library.itl files, but they are a week old and I've added music and playlists since then. What happens if I move them back to the My Music/iTunes/ folder and write over the current files? Will it return my presets? Will music and playlists created since then still appear?

Thank you...

Posted on Oct 31, 2005 8:24 PM

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Oct 31, 2005 11:17 PM in response to Eric Banfield

Eric,

Can't help you as to
i why
this happened, but you can recover from it.

As you surmised, you can use the ITL file you backed up to replace the current one. The XML file is not used by iTunes, only created for use in other programs. It can be imported for some recovery, but the ITL file is the Library database that runs iTunes. See: What are the iTunes Library files?.

Using an earlier version of the Library will return the presets that you had at the time of the backup. Any changes you made since that time will be 'lost'. This includes any songs imported, changes to ratings, playcounts, etc.

The incremental song files you ripped after the backup will still be on your PC. You'll just need to 'Add' them back into the Library.

You can 'export' your newer playlists to an XML file prior to rolling back the Library. After the rollback, just import the playlists into iTunes and they will be recovered.

It will depend on how much 'work' you did since your last backup.

In the future, I suggest that you make a copy of the 'iTunes Library.itl' file each time that iTunes closes and finishes the write process. I do this, and it has saved my Library from some iTunes errors and my own, self-inflicted lunacy (I am lees than careful, as I have several backups and like to 'experiment').

Post back if you have questions.

Nov 1, 2005 6:42 PM in response to Buegie

Thanks LOADS. Your tips are well written and the logic makes sense. Of course, I have a few follow-up questions:

1) How do I export the playlists to an *.xml file? Do they all go into one file or one for each playlist? All I see is the option to "Export List" to a *.txt file.

2) Am I correct in assuming that, after I roll back, I will have to re-add ALL songs since the last backup, meaning a) mp3 files of my old band, b) songs imported from my CDs, and c) all songs purchased. Will I have to re-import from the CDs or just add the files?

3) I have added mp3s but I have never added iTunes songs back into iTunes. Am I correct in assuming that, after I roll back, I add back missing iTunes files by doing File > Add File to Library (same way I add mp3s)? So I just navigate to /iTunes/iTunes Music and grab what I am missing?

Thanks again.

Nov 1, 2005 6:59 PM in response to Eric Banfield

Eric,

i 1) How do I export the playlists to an *.xml file? Do they all go into one file or one for each playlist? All I see is the option to "Export List" to a *.txt file.

You have the option to select the XML format via the lower drop-down box ('Save as type'). Change it from TXT to XML. I do believe that the TXT file format will re-import into iTunes, but it goes a bit slower. For large playlists, the XML format is quicker (I could be wrong here). You'll need to select the right format on the 'import' side as well, when the time comes.

i 2) Am I correct in assuming that, after I roll back, I will have to re-add ALL songs since the last backup, meaning a) mp3 files of my old band, b) songs imported from my CDs, and c) all songs purchased. Will I have to re-import from the CDs or just add the files?

You are correct that you will need to 'Add' the songs back into iTunes. They should all still exist on the PC drive where they are now. You will not have to re-import the CDs.

i 3) I have added mp3s but I have never added iTunes songs back into iTunes. Am I correct in assuming that, after I roll back, I add back missing iTunes files by doing File > Add File to Library (same way I add mp3s)? So I just navigate to /iTunes/iTunes Music and grab what I am missing?

Yup -- just that simple. Like the MP3s you 'Added' before, you now have some AAC files sitting on the HD, just waiting to be included into iTunes.

Post back if you have any additional questions.

Nov 1, 2005 9:09 PM in response to Buegie

Well, thank you again. I tried it, but I sadly report that it didn't work. I saved the existing *.itl file in another folder. I took the old *.itl file backed up from 7 days ago (well before the equalizer lost the presets I made and lost its ability to save any presets I make). I moved it into the /itunes/ folder. I launched iTunes. As we expected, it rolled me back to what I had 7 days ago; fine. But - weird - none of the presets that existed 7 days ago appeared. And - what's much worse -- I still could not save any presets that I made. Drat! (For now I moved back to the existing *.itl file.)

Question: Are we sure that presets are saved in the *.itl file? Does my experiment not suggest that they might be saved elsewhere?

Note/plaint: This lost functionality severely diminishes the value of iTunes for me. It's crushing me not only that all that work is lost, but more that I can't even manually recreate and retrieve ANY presets anymore! I need them badly! Otherwise 20% of my songs sound horrible. Plus, on my PC with my speakers, any song booms with way too much bass. I truly appreciate all the help, but, man, I still need HELP!

Does anyone have an idea?

Nov 1, 2005 9:30 PM in response to Buegie

OK, thanks. But I must ask: Is it your understanding that the equalizer presets are saved in the *.pref file? My experiment (see thread below) with the backed-up *.itl file failed - the evidence would suggest that the *.itl file does not save the equalizer presets -- so you might be right. But I see no reference to the equalizer in the Edit > Preferences area. Thank you!

Nov 1, 2005 10:34 PM in response to Eric Banfield

I took a stab that the inability of iTunes to save the EQ presets might be due to a preferences files issue.

It is my understanding that the following attributes are stored in the Library database:

These are in the iTunes Library only:
-- Playlists
-- Ratings
-- Play Count
-- Last Played
-- Date Added
-- Date Modified
-- Equalizer
-- Volume Adjustment

Nov 1, 2005 10:36 PM in response to Eric Banfield

While you cannot 'read' the ITL file, you can view the XML file. Look in that file and see when your EQ presets did exist. Perhaps they got 'canned' a bit earlier that you thought?

Open several saved versions of the total Library XML file with a browser, Excel or a text editor.

I'll have to bring in Otto42 or MacMuse on this -- they may have some additional insight.

Nov 2, 2005 1:19 AM in response to Eric Banfield

Equalizer presets are stored in the C:\Documents and Settings\yourname\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes\iTunes.pref file. If this file is read-only, then you will not be able to save custom EQ presets.

In case of doubt, rename or remove the file before starting iTunes. iTunes will rebuild it, although it will happen with default settings, of course.

This may be considered the definitive word on the question of where the presets are stored. 🙂

Nov 2, 2005 10:07 AM in response to Otto42

Definitive indeed, Otto!

Buegie, thanks for bringing Otto42 into this.

Yes, that did it! By renaming the *.pref file and letting iTunes generate a new one on launch, I find my ability to make, save, and retrieve presets after re-launch is restored. Yay!

The evidence would suggest that indeed the equalizer presets are stored in the *.pref file, despite the fact that no reference to the equalizer appears in the Edit > Preferences GUI.

One moderate drawback: I back up my wife's iTunes library on my PC, and have lots of song files on my PC I do not want in iTunes. The re-launch of iTunes with the new pref file caused it to grab EVERY music file on my drive, including duplicates. I had to filter cleverly and delete songs - about an hour's work.

Questions: What are all the files I should back up? music files, itl file, and pref file? Any others?

When I back up I rewite over the prior backup. Should I instead keep and build up legacy copies of the itl and pref files? (e.g., one from last week, one from week before, and so on?)

Any idea what caused the pref file to stop storing presets? (My file was indeed not set to read only, so that wasn't the problem.)

Did it get confused because I created too many presets (about 20)? Is there a limit to the number of presets you can make?

THANK YOU!!! Eric

Nov 2, 2005 10:36 AM in response to Eric Banfield

Eric,

i "What are all the files I should back up? music files, itl file, and pref file? Any others? Should I instead keep and build up legacy copies"

Music files (of course), ITL file, the main XML file (easy enough to do along with the ITL file), Not sure about the .Pref file (...Otto?), also the individual Playlist XML files (if they are critical). It does appear that all playlists (both Smart & Static) are spec'd out in the main XML file. Don't know if you can individually recover them, or have to import the complete file (which may not be what you want to do at the time).

I keep legacy copies of the ITL and XML files for a while. I save them each and every time that iTunes exits and writes a new one. I am doing some 'experimenting' with iTunes to better understand it, so this is critical for me. It can't hurt to have session backups of the ITL file. It's a fairly easy copy/rename process.

I do incremental backups of the music files to an independent ExHD any time I make changes. As I do not keep legacy copies of the music (other than on DVD+RW), if I mess up a song file (artwork, label, etc.), then back it up, I can be fairly well hosed and need to fix it whenever I find the issue. This has not happened to me (that I know of) yet, but it is a known risk that I take.

I have no clue as to why your .Pref file got corrupted. It does seem to happen infrequently (as posted here). Although, that could be a function of most users not noticing that they cannot change their settings. I saw it once with a 'custom import' setting problem. Probably happens more than we know, but I'm guessing. Maybe an upgrade that has a glitch, maybe user error, or PC hygiene.....

I see no EQ setting in the main XML file. It still could be present in the ITL files for each individual song, but not exported to the XML file. Again, I'll have to defer to Otto.

Glad you got it sorted out.

On the re-launch of iTuines...could you not allow the program to scan the HD, adding both yours and your wife's music? Bypass the initial scan and just 'Add' your directory into iTunes manually. I think that this may have been the way to go. It's been a while since I re-initialized the iTunes program this way. Just a thought.

Post back with comments or observations. Any new information is good to have.

Lost equalizer presets

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