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Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
How do I get songs that are already on the internet (such as in a midi file or on a free player) into iTunes, and then edit them, either to make a medley or to shorten one song? Thanks.

Power Mac G4, Mac OS X (10.4.11), Hard Drive 57.26 GB, Internal Slave Drive 232.86 GB
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Progress(?) I downloaded Audacity 1.2.5, saved one of the songs to my hard drive, and put it in the Audacity folder. It plays off my computer. Still no idea of how to open it in editable file form, let alone begin to work with it.
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Couldn't get anywhere with Audacity so will try to see if RealPlayer works.
  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (21,940 points)
    Cornelia,

    Open Audacity, go to Project > Import Audio and pull in the file you want to work on.

    To shorten a file, just highlight the part you want to get rid of, and hit Delete.

    It will work on MP3s, but (needless to say) will not work on iTunes "protected" tracks.

    To combine two songs, as in a medley, do the Import Audio again. Use the tool that looks like a horizontal two-headed arrow to line up the second file where you want it. Play thru the transition to make sure it is how you want it.

    There are a bunch of other capabilities in Audacity which you can learn by trying. Work on a spare copy of the file so you don't accidentally overwrite the original.

    Ed
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Hmmm, when I click on it it says "You cannot open the Application Audacity because it is not supported on this architecture." (I was opening the folder, but now find I can't open the application.)

    Also, two of the three songs I can't seem to make into files. When I open them in RealPlayer and hit the Download arrow, it just says, "Coming Soon." So part of what I was asking is how to make these Flash Player tracks into usable files with which I can work in some application.

    Here http://swen.antville.org/stories/735413/ is an article which seems to be talking about this subject, but I don't at all understand what he means by opening a file in some text application and finding out what kind of a file it is or whatever. These files, when I play them, don't have a bar at the top with a url you can copy or anything--just a banner telling you what song is playing.

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  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (21,940 points)
    Cornelia - at a minimum, you will need (1) a working version of Audacity and (2) a copy of the song in MP3 format on your hard drive.

    To achieve #1, you may have to reinstall.

    The article you cite tells how to convert a RM stream to an MP3. I have not done that, but you are welcome to try. But to get started, why not save that complication and use a plain vanilla MP3? With that, it should work. Pls let us know.
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Okay, the first problem was easy. I had simply downloaded the wrong version of Audacity. I deleted it and downloaded the right version.

    As to the three songs...I found one in downloadable form on some website and downloaded it a couple of different ways. When I went to put it on Audacity, it made it into some sort of file which can apparently be selected and exported in MP3 or different formats. If I can edit, then play that, that would be great. I want about twenty seconds of the song and then have it cut off or fade out.

    The other two songs, I could find on only one website, playable (with Flash Player) but not downloadable. I was just wondering if there was some way to get them into MP3 format and get the computer to recognize them. If I could edit them, especially the third one which is the most important, that would be AWESOME. If not, will have to edit the old-fashioned way (pause buttons) which can be not pretty. Thanks for assistance.

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  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (21,940 points)
    OK, sounds like problem #1 is solved and Audacity is working.

    About that special song, have you tried the online flash to MP3 converter vixy.net?
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Hmmm, I tried downloading it and putting in the song url (which I did find) but it keeps coming up with, "file not found."
  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (21,940 points)
    Is the song you want available in MP3 format at a store like amazon.com?
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    You know, I found them on some online services, but you had to sign up, give a credit card number, and put a minimum of $19.99 on your account, and it didn't seem worth it for two or three songs. If there is anyplace offering a better deal, I'd be interested to know of it.
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Yikes. It seems I picked a heckuva choice for my main selection! The title is in a foreign language which for all I knew might be the only tune by that name. Well, come to find out it is not only a practically omnipresent phrase in that language but with variant spellings! It's as if someone whose native language was not English needed to identify one particular song out of all songs with Alleluia, Allelujah, or Hallelujah in them (even narrowing down by just title words!) What's more, it comes from an album of traditional music where the artists aren't identified so I don't even have a group name to search, and I am not crazy enough about the rest of the songs to buy the whole CD. So this one audio on this one website is the only place I can be sure of having the right tune!
  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (21,940 points)
    If that stream is really the only trustworthy source, you may have to record it from the stream using Audio Hijack or some such tool.
  • ed2345 Level 7 Level 7 (21,940 points)
    BTW I blv Audacity can do such recording although I have not used it.
  • Cornelia Shields Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Okay, I learned a little more about the CD this tune is from. It came out two years ago, so recent enough for there to be no used copies, but long ago enough for the original to be out of print, so even if I were desperate enough to pay 8 bucks for one song, the CD is not available anywhere. It occurred to me I might be able to use my Canopus ADVC 110 to capture the audio, so I posted this in their forums:

    1. Is what I want to do possible, and

    2. How do I go about doing it?

    I've found a sound file online which plays only through the Flash Player provided on the site or through Real Player. I can't buy the music by any method as no downloadable version is anywhere online and it's from an obscure foreign out-of-print CD.

    I'm playing it through these speakers: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1979229,00.asp As you can see, they have AUX and earphone jacks.

    My questions are, can I connect one or both of those jacks to the ADVC 110 with an AV cable and capture the sound? Will the sound remain digital, or does the unit only convert from digital to analog and vice versa? If I can capture it, can I convert it to MP3 and put it in iTunes? I also want to do the same thing with a midi file. And, how do I go about all the above? Thanks for any advice.
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