Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

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May 30, 2013 3:58 PM in response to Dovez

Dovez,

that's pretty much my experience as well. I could see the "snow effect" you mention with the two screens I've had problems with: my retina MBP and in boot camp Windows with my older MBP.


The fact that the 2011-MBP is absolutely fine for my eyes (and no snow) in MacOS but causes problems when I boot into Windows makes me wonder if there is a software solution to this problem. The only difference is the OS and driver.

May 31, 2013 1:27 AM in response to Dovez

Yes, I can see the snow effect as well and I presume it has a role in what we experience.

But what's weird is that my HP pavilion g6 laptop has both a LED screen and the snow effect (on windows 7). And I'm fine with it. But frequency and spatial organisation of the flickering are probably different.


One should try to put windows XP/vista on a problematic Apple Laptop (I don't know if it's possible?) and see what happens because the first windows known to handle the Snow effect is 7

Jun 4, 2013 5:41 AM in response to RMartin111

My eyes have recently started being sensitive and feeling tight. I work with an iMac (it's old-doesn't have an SD slot), and have a iPhone and recently upgraded my ipad2 to a mini.


I'm wondering if my mini has exacerbated an underlying problem, because I've only just noticed it. I'm not using devices more often.


I work in IT, am studying online and gererally have a paperless existence, but this is totally ruining it for me. To make things worse, I am addicted to my devices. I actually wrote on a piece of paper last week and immediately lost it! How am I going to cope? Having an app for everything certainly isn't helping!


Is this the new asbestos? Are we all going to go blind?

Jun 4, 2013 5:49 AM in response to Anastasia80

It may not be a recent development for you and you may just be sensitive to LED back lighting like many of us. Your new MINI is LED back lit, I am not sure about your IPAD 2 but I think it may not be if it never caused you discomfort before? Someone else here will know for sure, I know the MINI is LED back lit because I was going to buy one for my wife at Christmas and when I told her it was LED and would make me sick she said she didn't want it if she couldn't use it sitting next to me....

Jun 4, 2013 6:55 AM in response to Anastasia80

Anastasia80,


I think we need to differentiate here between LED and "new, high-intensity, low-power LED's".


Your iPad2 uses the former. Your iPad Mini uses the latter. Both are LCD displays, backlit by LED. But one of them is hurtful to look at. (Guess which?)


I have no problems with LED panels from 2010-2011, but the newer ones hurt after just a little while.


- Gurm

Jun 4, 2013 6:59 AM in response to RMartin111

So this week I'm at a major technical conference. The GOOD news is that my eyes haven't completely bugged out. The BAD news is that I just can't play with any of the new toys. The large-size touchscreens are vaguely tolerable (but not for long periods) but the smaller touchscreens are terrible. Yesterday I had the option to try a new phone - the Nokia Lumia 928, it's really an amazing device. The verdict is still out, but my eyes were tired when I tried it.


The new tablets here (Surface) are tough to use, but again verdict is out until I have fresh eyes. Maybe after my midday siesta today I'll give them another go.


The good news is that awareness of this problem is growing. One of my friends who I'm with turned to the other friend - who I hadn't caught up with in years - and said "has he told you about his LED sensitivity problem lately"?


The other friend - who had not heard of this from ME - said "oh, you mean LED's newer than about 2 years ago? Lots of people can't use them... they changed the light or something". So people know about it - or are starting to!


- Gurm

Jun 4, 2013 7:55 AM in response to Gurm42

That's fantastic news Gurm that other people are becoming aware of this issue, still lots of work to do in order to fix it I'm sure. It sounds like if I was at the same conference I wouldn't be doing well at all, I also wouldn't recover enough within hours to understand if any of the monitors were better than others. There is definitely a big difference in the level of sensitivity between folks with this issue.

Jun 4, 2013 8:58 AM in response to RMartin111

Today I have removed myself PWM brightness control from new TV/monitor AKAI 32' AKFL3274HF3 on CCFL bulbs 🙂

It have: 32' LG 1920x1080 with passive LG 3D with no visible input lag and good viewing angles. (IPS ?). I don't recognized disturbing flicker in most tests from: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/.



In comparision to 24' ACER G245h which was comfortable to my eyes: 2 CCFL edge monted bulbs with no PWM flicker by turned on 100% brightness, AKAI has: unknown number of CCFL bulbs behind screen and constant (smaller or lower) PWM flicker on all settings. Any colour shifting, brightness and even many good eyeglasses + window with three glasses before screen failed to protect against eye fatigue and pain in the right eye.


Before removing PWM camera showed flicker even with 100% backlight. It looked like noise.


So I opened the TV. And disconnected brightness control wire from main board to inverter build on OZ9966SN chip.


There is no brightness control now, but dimming by monitor contrast has very wide level. A screen finally is super stable. Camera shows nothing like in ACER monitor.


I can't say how this will work for my eyes now, becouse I have a pain from yesterday day. So removing PWM from CCFL/LED monitors and TV could be very easy.

Jun 6, 2013 10:51 AM in response to Jessiah1

Jessiah,


Yes there absolutely is a huge differential in symptoms. In fact, there's a difference in symptoms within the SAME individual sometimes. If I take a week off from work, rest my eyes, mostly stay at home or outside during the day, with incandescent lights and no dodgy screens or lighting... then my tolerance for bad screens and fluorescents is HUGE. Like hours and hours without issues.


On the other hand, if I'm having a particularly bad day of symptoms, come home and overtax my already tired eyes, and then have to go back to the office a second day in a row... then it is exponentially worse!


These symptoms are EXTREMELY similar to eyestrain symptoms, but aren't caused by the same thing (overworked eye muscles). Even some of the itching/stinging/burning people experience are classic eyestrain-related symptoms. This leads me to hope that there will be a "fix" for this sometime in the near future.


I've been at this conference for 5 days now, and I'm discovering that the latest phones and monitors aren't AS bad. I think that manufacturers may be (finally) leaning away from the bright blue lights. Or maybe it's just that lots of things have anti-glare or are behind layers of glass and digitizers.

Jun 6, 2013 11:45 AM in response to Gurm42

Interesting, believe it or not I cannot tolerate LED light of any kind for any period of time, 10-15 seconds and its down the rabbit hole for me. My symptoms are greater than eyestrain and Migraine though, my neurologists are trying to figure out what's going on with me, they feel so far it is light triggered migraines however they have not ruled out some type of seizure disorder or something like that. I wish I could even just drive at night without getting sick from LED tail lights, sounds like you can get through that kind of exposure just fine. The only difference for me is if I am away from the lights for a period of time than I can get away with a glance here and there of LED light, its compounding each time I get exposed within a 24hr period and doesn't go away sometimes for 2-3 days after a few minutes of exposure. Sometimes I feel like there is no one else out there as sensitive as me but I am sure there is. 😟

Jun 7, 2013 3:21 AM in response to Jessiah1

I had a Vistual Field test for Glaucoma as part of my eye exam. It was basically a red LED matrix which would illuminate a single LED and I had to hit the button when I saw it. After images made this very difficult, I struggled to distinguish between the illuminated LEDs and the after glow. I felt very disorientated prior to going in for the main VA exam. Also, any idea what type of light they use in the hand held Retinoscope? It took a couple of mins to get my eyesight back before the test could continue.

Jun 11, 2013 5:26 PM in response to Jessiah1

I'm glad I just discovered this thread. For the last couple of years - since I bought my 2010 17" MBP - I've been getting headaches after 3 or 4 hours of continual work. I need to take a break (and a few ibuprofen). I thought it might be my eyes but they check out fine. I also don't get it on my MBP while watching movies, only when I'm working and the screen is bright.

Jun 12, 2013 5:18 AM in response to RMartin111

I'm now on my second external CCFL monitor (with HP Envy 4 laptop) and I'm still having some problems. The first monitor (an iiyama) was definitely worse, but the new one (Asus vh242h), while better, is not entirely comfortable. I'm getting dry eyes and the screen (which is matte) just seems a bit garish. Which leads me to think: might this be caused by the OS? I'm using Windows 8. Perhaps its colours are just too much for me, its whites too bright? Never had an issue with Vista in this regard. I'm connected via HDMI, screen resolution is 1920x1080 (native). Am currently experimenting with monitor brightness set to 100% and brightness/contrast reduced on the graphics card, but not sure it's making any difference.


Hard to know where to go from here. Change the OS? Am even considering buying a 6-year old Macbook and sticking an SSD in there, but that seems like a rather desperate measure. But...current Macbook Pros give me big problems (headaches, dry eyes), LED Windows laptops are hard for me to look at, and even now using an external CCFL with Windows 8 I'm not comfortable.

Jun 12, 2013 9:49 AM in response to cadette61

I think we are all in agreement that there has been recent developments in regards to Hz and PWM controllers that are probably consistent issues for both CCFL and LED back lighting. The reason your Mac's are worse is becuase LED compared to CCFL is like a sharp stick in the eye by comparison, most likely due to high levels of blue light. It's unlikely it has anything to do with the OS, you should try some of the new LED TV's or light bulbs and see how you fair there, if they bother you then you know it is PWM or Blue light spectrum or both. I think it is both for me.

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