Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Jun 25, 2013 3:54 AM in response to Exandas

Wow, I am surprised to see other people having so similar symptom as I do!


In fact, I did wonder if it was some kind of allergic response. And I did try to take anti-allergic pills when I felt discomfort with the throat after looking at the problematic LED screens. Guess what, it did appear to work for me!


BUT!! I'm no doctor, if anyone want to try this, better seek proper medication first!


Nevertheless, it appears it could be that some of us are allergic to the light coming out from the bright harsh blue LEDs... ?!?!

Jun 25, 2013 4:02 AM in response to Eric Leung1

Let me ammend what I just said, regarding the anti-allergic pills. It had quite an obvious effect in helping my swollen throat, but doesn't make my eyes more comfortable.


And, I'm fairly sure that my swollen throat is linked to the bright-harsh-blue-LEDs. As it would start feeling uncomfortable not very long after looking at that kind of LEDs and gradually fades away as I look away.

Jun 25, 2013 11:50 AM in response to Jessiah1

I think light comming from the screens contains too much information. Too much information overtires the body and causes symptoms. Closing one eye makes your body work twice as less hard to process it. By information I mean rapid and often not consciously visible light level changes (any form of flicker), spectrum (blue light contains more information than red or green light), light patterns (pixel grid, or black letters on a white screen), brightness (how much light enters the eye), not sure if polarization is in any way detected by humans. The blue part of the spectrum is one of the easiest to get rid of nearly completely for a short test period to see how strong the factor really is. Just look at the screen through a strongly colored transparent red peice of plastic.

Jun 25, 2013 7:02 PM in response to AxelTerizaki

I would like to see what people have figured out to overcome the issues that they have. I am sensitive to florescent lights, flickering and LED blue spike. Here is how I handled the new florescent lights that they put in at work. They went to a new cool light that gave me head aches, eye fatigue and other weirdness. Fortunately, I have a great optician and we tried a number of BPI Therauputic Tints. I found one that worked for me really well. It is called Euro Brown and cuts the lite down across the spectrum especially on the blue side. I have glasses tinted at 20% and I can function normally in the office with this tint. They also make other tints especially one called FL41 for Florescent light. It didn't do the trick for me. The Euro brown is the one for me.


Now I am working on the flickering and Windows 7. I have an XP system and a VGA monitor that I use. I find that Windows 7 causes eye problems for me. I have turned off ClearType and changed the Segoe fonts out and it still seems like the monitor is fickering. It feels like Windows 7 isn't really using the higher refresh rates even when it is set to 75 or 80 Hz. I am waiting for the new Benq 24" No PWM monitor to see if that will help.


Any input would be appreciated.

tx.

Jun 27, 2013 3:37 AM in response to Jessiah1

I have come up with something that might be of great help to someone with a pwm-free screen who is experiencing these symptoms. This might or might not work even if my assumptions are correct. My assumption is that the biggest cause of the symptoms is pixel flicker which might be completely invisible in some cases. I saw a video showing only white pixels flickering. There are two states of pixel flicker : darker pxel, lighter pixel. So the method: Go the the settings of your graphic card and configure the contrast, brightness, red/green/blue settings so that the screen is as bright as possible while the content on the screen remains still mostly visible. The backlight intesity should be as low as possible. Why this could work? This might keep white pixels from going too far dark when flickering and the flicker would be minimized, because its depth would be lesser.


If the graphic card has no influence over the darker states of the pixels of this flicker, then this method would not help at all and possibly would be counterproductive. If this method makes the problem even worse, then you could try the opposite: set the graphic card settings to very low and the backlight to very high (or not). This would keep the pixels from going too far white and the depth of flicker would be smaler.

Jun 28, 2013 11:47 PM in response to ds store

Hello everyone I am an eye Dr in Australia and have been invited to do a presentation about eye strain and computer screens. This is an extremely important topic which has very little research. The problem is that eyestrain is multifactorial of which glare and flicker is only a few of many reasons.


I would like to know whether anyoone has had any experience with the new Benq Flicker Free screens. These screens are LED based but unique from what I understand in the market place as far as being Flicker Free. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.


Dr K

Jun 29, 2013 8:16 AM in response to EyeDr K

I posed this question earlier in the forum and no one seems to have tried this monitor yet? I agree that eyestrain is multifactorial and I would also add that there are many health conditions contributing to light sensitivity with different degrees of acuteness. Monitors are not the only issue here as well, there are many LED overhead lighting fixtures which cause the same symptoms, most of us here feel a large contribution could be from the PWM controller. This is an epidemic for some of us where we are loosing life functionality, I have been on disability now for 4 months due to overhead LED lighting and LED computer monitors. I have several specialists helping me including a renowned headache specialist and so far no real solutions.


🙂 If I had the funds to purchase this monitor and trial it I would certainly do so and post my findings here and on my Website. I have a hunch however that the blue/white spectrum of the LED is a major contributor to our discomfort and removing flicker is only a start in advancing this technology correctly.

Jun 29, 2013 9:23 AM in response to EyeDr K

I can't comment on the Benq monitors but I did buy an Acer S243HLAbmii LED monitor as I read it had very low PWM. It was still unusable unfortunately, although I am able to use it for distance viewing (i.e. downloaded TV programmes) for an hour or so.


It's not just the LED lighting that's the problem however, as I have hooked my macbook up to an old CCFL screen and it is still problematic. Here I can use it for an hour or two if I wear sunglasses.


The only two things that have worked for me is using old computers/laptops with Windows XP installed (and CCFL screen) and using a Kindle Paperwhite (which I would recommend for basic web browsing).


My problem is also related to natural light - my wife currently has the blinds fully open and it is giving me eystrain just looking at this old laptop which is usually fine.


I also had a migraine from looking at this computer in low light one evening (sun went down and couldn't be bothered to swithch the light on). I was very stressed that evening which contributed but is was definitely also from looking at the screen.

Jul 1, 2013 1:56 PM in response to EyeDr K

@EyeDr K


There are people in this site claiming that flicker, at least as we know it in the older displays, may not be the problem for many of us. Personally for the last 15 years i never experienced any issues at all with any kind of screen, CRTS or LCDs. I look at displays almost all day long and i can say that i am not even getting significant fatigue, and i have used a lot of different displays and i am pretty sure that at least one flickered (but with no issues for me).


But with the new LED/OLED displays, (my experience is with iphone 4S, Ipad 2, MBP, Samsung GSIII, Lumia 920, Xperia Z) 30 mins is enough to give me a headache and eye strain that lasts for days.


Furthermore the devices i use at the moment may flicker using the camera test, but dont bother me. For example my 2009 Nokia flickers a lot, but i feel very comfortable with it all day long. The same with my dead Blackerry.


Also the symptoms are really strange sometimes. Besides the usual symptoms of eye strain, fatigue, and headaches/nausea, i get symptoms like muscle cramp at the back of my neck, throat issues like being sick, and from long use, memory problems. The last one was really scary, i was not able to choose the correct word when i was trying to talk! Could flicker cause such sysmptoms? I dont know.


I read in this forum of an HP flicker free monitor that didn't turn out to be comfortable. Also in another site i read that EIZO flicker free display was also not very comfortable. Honestly i dont know what to look for any more in order to buy any device with a backlight display.

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