Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Oct 8, 2013 2:37 PM in response to Strapontin

You have an interesting point. However, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that ccfl screens need to be thicker than leds. That would pose a bit of a problem in order to go in reverse. I may be wrong in this. However, maybe it's possible and I would certainly donate some amount of money if someone with credentials wanted to pursue something like this. Of course I would love to have a 27 or 30 inch monitor and a bigger TV that would be easy on the eyes! 😀


I like that eInk reader/monitor! I would be interested in checking one out and it would be great if eventually they made color ones.

Oct 8, 2013 2:51 PM in response to Strapontin

I actually think that the mass postings over the years about the led-screen problems paying off.

Eizo or Benq would hardly tried to correct the problem with the screens unless it has been for the posts on various forums around the internet.

Both companies have attempted to correct it, even if it has not yet succeeded.

Eizo has with its EV series both tried to correct the problem with the blue light and remove pwm flicker.

Benq also has a series where PWM dimming is completely gone.

Sooner or later, someone will find the cause and successfully correct it once and for all....

Oct 8, 2013 3:32 PM in response to ArtechokiQ

Can someone direct me to a information on how to adjust my refresh rate? Sorry if this has been posted over and over and I missed it. 😊


Ok found the refresh rate... However, it wont let me change it past 60hz. I suppose this means that this monitor only refreshes at that rate then? Is there any way to work around this?

Oct 8, 2013 3:30 PM in response to Strapontin

I can sense your frustration Strapontin and I really understand you. However I want to mention that the symptoms I have are so detrimental to my health since 1993. Now thats 20 years, and for some reason I wish that this thread would have 250,000,000 viewers. We are a little minority that is willing to talk about this and we should just become louder, only then somebody may care. Technology is mostly money driven so we actually dont need just engineers. What we need is one of those CEO's of large computer monitor companies be somebody who either understands us or who has symptoms like we do. For some reason I believe that only the second one will truly help. But then we can be loud enough so that they can hear us. So let there be 250,000,000 viewers of this thread!

Oct 8, 2013 3:42 PM in response to Kine

If it is nvidia here are instructions:


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/33641-screen-refresh-rate-custom-nvidia-bra nd.html


Now there is this piece of software that will let you overclock rates, so be careful, use it at your own risk: (there is a small chance that you may damage your monitor with this)


http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

Oct 8, 2013 6:00 PM in response to ArtechokiQ

ArtechokiQ, Kvoth posted a generic e-mail address in an earlier post, can you find that and e-mail him so we can add you to our core group? We have some ideas and are gathering efforts to make some progress on specifics like communication and representation of our cause.


Also, I wanted to add that Kvoth is asking about strabismus because glasses with Prism seem to have helped him over the last year. Ironically before he brought this up to me my optometrist was considering adding prism to my glasses as well so I will report on that when it happens.


I can apreciate Strapontin inputs as well, but I agree manufacturers are attempting to correct this issue because the first to do so has one **** of a marketing strategy for eye strain! The core issue is complicated because LED lighting is new and both spectrum and modulation depth are issues. If it were simple it would be done already.


Also, even if the information repeats itself this forum is important. There is a core group of people here who have discussed their way through many topics to develop a much clearer picture of the root causes. If one person finds even one thing they can share to make thing's better they can help a great number of people all at once.

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