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  • Coufu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Try setting your brightness to "8 squares". Your eyes may react differently, but I've been really irritated at 15-30 min eyestrain and this setting has actually worked okay for me.

  • @MuDaeBoJongShin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've knocked together an app in an attempt to reduce my own eye strain problems with the MBA 13" screen.  It overlays a semi-transparent black mask so that the LCD panel is never quite fully transparent, i.e. the LED backlight is never fully exposed to your eyes.

     

    I'm not sure it works all that well -- looking at the screen feels a lot more comfortable, but my eyes still got too bad to continue working for a while earlier today.  FWIW, here it is anyway:

     

    http://max.tc/SunVisor.zip

  • razureus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Has anyone got used to LED backlit display? I heard that it may be just matter of time and eyes will get used to it and there will be no more eyestrain headaches whatsoever.

  • MrVas Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did. I found a brightness setting that works for well my eyes in most situations, but I do adjust it accordingly to ambiant light.

  • MisterMojo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, my 13" MBP is much better since I calibrated it using settings posted earlier in this thread and the addition of a Power Support anti-glare film. I also make a point of not staring at the display for any longer than necessary, particularly large, bright open windows. When ever possible I change the window background color to something other than white.

     

    Like MrVas, I have found that carefully adjusting the backlight according to the ambient lighting makes a significant difference. I keep the Shades icon in the Finder menu Bar for making adjustments.

     

    I doubt that I would be able to adjust to the MacBook Air display. It caused severe eyestrain, much worse than my MBP.

  • razureus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just bought new MBA 13. My eyes and head hurts from it. I calibrated it, thats obvious. Im asking about fully getting used to led backlit, with no headaches and eyestrain. Has anyone done it?

  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)

    Has anyone done it?

     

    Tens or hundreds of millions of people have done it, not just with MBPs and MBAs, but with all the other notebook computers that use LED backlighting — nearly all of the ones on the market for the last several years.

  • MisterMojo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hyperbole aside, many people use LED backlit displays without complaint. But at the same time there are more than a few people who are sensitive to the LED backlighting and from what I have read, it is isn't necessarily a sensitivity to all LEDs, just certain displays. Early Apple displays didn't cause me a problem; the current portable Macs do. Go figure... Apple knows what changed but it ain't talking!

     

    As far as your question Razureus, if you are approaching the end of your return period and you still are not able to use the MBA without problems, you should seriously comsider returning it and letting Apple know why. If you decide to keep the Mac even though your eyes are still bothered by the display, you risk getting stuck with a computer that will be torture to use. There is no guarantee that you will become less sensitive to the LED even if other people have been able to do so.

     

    Sorry, I don't have a better suggestion for you...

  • razureus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I know that many people dont suffer from LED backlit, but I wonder if anyone who found it very uncomfortable at the beginnig has used to it (in, let say, several weeks) and now uses mac with no problems at all.

  • dan98 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    FWIW, I simply cant get comfortable infront of ANY LED-backlit screens, TVs, laptops, ipads, whatever.

    What starts as eye strain becomes dizziness and confusion after a time, even though they are perfectly large and defined enough.

    I've worked with computers for 20 years and never had such problems, even with old CRTs. (im 35 now)

    I hope they sort this out as the technology matures, I certainly wont be buying any new Apple products until they do.

    I don't care what anyone else says as regards the technology, these LED screens aren't doing my health any good at all.

  • MisterMojo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Dan, there are still CCFL displays available from other companies. NEC makes a number of high-quality CCFL-backlit displays. You can use the displays with the Mac Mini and other Macs that work with an external monitor.

     

    Here is one that I am considering pairing with my 13" MBP. The actual price is $635 when the display is added to the cart:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/629071-REG/NEC_LCD2490WUXI2_BK_MultiSync_2 490WUXi2_BK_24_Widescreen.html#pr-header-629071.

     

    There are less expensive displays too.

  • dan98 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for that. Yes fortunately there are still some external LCDs available.

  • razureus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My story with eyestrain and headache finnaly ended!

    After about 2 weeks of using LED backlit MBA I got used to it and now im perfectly happy with it. Its very strange and i could not explain it, but my body needed some time to get used to resolution and new type of backliting.

     

    Now im using macbook with no problems at all!

  • MauiTechnoGeek Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I came across this thread when searching for answers to why an HP 2311x LED monitor I just got was making my eyes bleary.  It seems that a number of people are concluding there is something in LED technology - or at least in some implementations of it - that causes eye strain.

     

    I've been using a Viewsonic VX2433wm CCFL monitor as a second display on my 2007 MacBook Pro for months and really like it --- no eye strain problems at all.  I needed another display for my new Mac Mini Server (a lot of CPU for the $!)  and picked up the HP 2311x locally.  After finding my eyes tiring on it rapidly, I tried every adjustment I read about on the forums, but to no avail.  I returned it and got a current Viewsonic VA2431wm online.  It has identical qualities to the VX2433wm, and I love it as well.

     

    Frankly, I don't understand what is going on here.  LED would seem to be more "natural" in that the spectrum is continuous and more like sunlight, whereas CCFL is more banded.  I've maxed out the brightness on both so there is no flicker from the dimming circuits.  The most unnatural thing about the LED is the big spike in the blue wavelength.  Whatever the cause, I'm thankful Viewsonic still makes a CCFL LCD monitor, because it works great for me.

  • alarmatwork Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Many thanks @MuDaeBoJongShin for your SunVisor program!

     

    As I can feel that the best setting for my migrane-problematic head is "full brightness" (which means no fast LED blinking for dimming as explained before). But the full brightness is killing eyes with brightness with intensity - so your program is giving good alternative for turning down the brightnes intensitiy without doing the blinking thing.

    Max brightness is OK in the daylight, but it is quite intensive in dark room.

     

    Few requests for improving your SunVisor:

    • if it could put icon to the menubar with optiont to turn it on and off and maybe even add black mask intensity patterns
    • if you could replace original brightness shortcuts with different levels or sunvisor brightness
    • Currently it is not working for multiple desktops

     

    So for others who suffer similar eye starain and headache problem I would recommend to try out:

    • take fresh head in the morning
    • put the brightness to the max
    • run this SunVisor program if your are not in daylight - to kill some brightness
    • otpional: turn your browser default font to large

     

    @MuDaeBoJongShin wrote:

     

    I've knocked together an app in an attempt to reduce my own eye strain problems with the MBA 13" screen.  It overlays a semi-transparent black mask so that the LCD panel is never quite fully transparent, i.e. the LED backlight is never fully exposed to your eyes.

     

    I'm not sure it works all that well -- looking at the screen feels a lot more comfortable, but my eyes still got too bad to continue working for a while earlier today.  FWIW, here it is anyway:

     

    http://max.tc/SunVisor.zip

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