Kick Drum Environment

Hi Divard,

No, whatever MIDI is coming into Logic, is routed to the SELECTED channel. So what happens here is what should happen. the same not is triggered for a different instrument. You have done everything right, except keeping the drum channel selected. that's all.

regards, Erik.

I am not too familiar with environment myself yet, but I will dig into that tomorrow. If you have no workable solution by then. It should be possible to route the transformer so that it only applies transform on your kick channel. Sounds reasonable, should be possible from what little I know about Environment.

regards, Erik.

Just to let you know I have not forgotten - I just had less time than I thought. Will look at it this weekend.

Erik.

Hi Divard,

The answer is much simpler than I thought (I should have known...) and is in fact in the keyboard, not in Logic: you have to alter your keyboards' +MIDI transmit channel+ (probably now ch 1). Then you set up the transformer something like this:

important here is the channel. If you leave that thru, it doesn't matter on what channel your keyboard transmits, all pedals will become notes. If you set it up *as above*, then only when your keyboard transmits on channel one will the pedal become a note. If you set your keyboard to transmit on *any of the channels 2 to 16*, the pedal will *remain a pedal* (even when playing via the kick drum track...).

regards, Erik.

Hi you seem to be one of these environment masters so I pose this to you I am using an E90ES Yamaha synth as my mother keys and I want to make it play a split layer meaning bass in the lower part of the keyboard and piano on the upper part. I then assign a midi channel to each split Zone. No problem there as far as the E90ES is concerned.

When I select 2 midi trks in Logic and go to record it uses the selected channel and records the whole thing as apposed to 2 separate recordings one the bass an the other the piano. I didn't want to have to mess with the environment in order to achieve this I thought it was a quick straight from the arrange page.

Can you help me please on this thanx ahead of time

Teebow62 wrote:
Hi you seem to be one of these environment masters…

Hahahaha! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 ROTFL…! But thank you!

I only heard of its' existence about three weeks ago... six months into Logic 8... looked daunting, and still does - it is the kind of thing that can only be understood by trial and error - or by trying to solve other peoples problems - which is what I'm trying to do. But I am no master. Anyway, I will look into it, seems like a normal setup, so should be possible.

Okay,
This is the vital part:

Teebow62 wrote:
When I select 2 midi trks in Logic and go to record it uses the selected channel and records the whole thing as apposed to 2 separate recordings one the bass an the other the piano. I didn't want to have to mess with the environment in order to achieve this I thought it was a quick straight from the arrange page.

You did everything right, but couldn't find the last small step... The solution is simple and the environment is not involved at all. 🙂 . You just use this command:

Now isn't that an environmentally friendly solution?

regards, Master Erik. 😉

Thank you for your speedy reply I am off to see if this will work let you know the outcome thanx again

What you want to do is use a transformer set up as "condition splitter". In the transformer, you process the sustain pedal so that it turns into a note. Then you route the top of the transformer directly to the instrument playing your kick drum. Route the bottom part of the transformer to the Sequencer Input. Voila!

The following is shown in the Clicks & Ports layer of Logic 7, but it will work exactly the same in Logic 8.

!http://www.score2picture.com/logicpix/kickpedal.jpg!

The note you choose in the transformer for the kick is your choice. The thing that looks like a hammer-head coming off of the transformer is connected to an audio instrument in another layer. Finally, the cable switcher is there so that you can bypass this scheme in case you want to use the sustain pedal normally.

Divard wrote:
Hi

I'm trying to set up my Midi keyboards pedal to act as a kick drum.

I've been able to set up my Midi keyboard pedal as a kick drum using the transformer in the Environment (within Clicks & Ports Layer). When I select my drum channel in the arrange window all is well. However, if I select a different channel in the arrange window (say piano) the pedal plays a note and doesn't act as a sustain pedal anymore.

I suspect I have set up the Transformer incorrectly as it seems to effect every midi channel the same. I guess I need to set it up so it only effects the drum channel but I don't know how.

Can anyone help?

Thanks

D

Hi,

Change where the Transformer is. Move it from the click and ports layer, to the layer where your Kick Instrument is, and hook it up right before this instrument, AND NOTHING ELSE.

Don't forget to rewire the click and ports to how they were.

Now, when you want to use it as the Kick, you select the TRANSFORMER, not the kick instrument, onto a track in the arrange page, and then it will work fine.

Cheers

Divard wrote:
Wow, thanks for all the great responses.

Noeqplease

I'm using BFD2 as a software instrument in Logic and am not sure how to put the transformer directly before this. Are you able to explain how I do this, do I create the transformer in the Mixer layer connected to the drum channel? If so can't get this to work so must be missing something.

If you could spoon feed me a little on this one I'd be really greatful?

D

Hi,

You go to your Environment, and find the Audio Object in which your plug-in is instantiated. it is most probably in the "Audio" Layer.

Create a New Transformer Object in this layer, move it under the aforementioned track Object, and cable it up to the track. Make sure the Transformer's Icon radio button is checked, so it appears in the Arrange page tracklist.

then, go ot the arrange page, and create a new track, and make this new track the TRANSFORMER object. this way you put it into record whenever you want to use it, and the MIDI will pass through to the Audio Instrument Object.

This is why Logic is the king of MIDI sequencing.

Cheers