Display full-screen controls NOT visible

I exported my keynote presentation as a QuickTime full-screen movie. In Preferences, I have the controls checked to display full-screen controls and to never hide them. They do not show up anywhere. I also set the presentation as a slideshow to control the presentation using the arrow keys and they do not show up. In the Guide it states that as long as "Display full-screen controls" is selected in QT Player Preferences, you can make hidden controls appear by moving the pointer. They don't.
Any help out there would be appreciated...I have a deadline to meet!

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4), QuickTime Player 7.5.0

Posted on Sep 4, 2008 10:09 AM

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Sep 8, 2008 12:11 PM in response to ASSIST

I exported my keynote presentation as a QuickTime full-screen movie. In Preferences, I have the controls checked to display full-screen controls and to never hide them. They do not show up anywhere. I also set the presentation as a slideshow to control the presentation using the arrow keys and they do not show up. In the Guide it states that as long as "Display full-screen controls" is selected in QT Player Preferences, you can make hidden controls appear by moving the pointer. They don't.
Any help out there would be appreciated...I have a deadline to meet!

Sep 9, 2008 9:12 AM in response to David M Brewer

I did as you said, when I clicked Apple key + J a window came up that said 'Show Movie Properties
Get QuickTime 7 Pro today to enable this feature...Buy Now. No Presentation tab available. I have QuickTime Player 7.5. I looked in QuickTime Player Help tab, it said to choose Window> Show Movie Properties, select Movie, click Presentation, choose option from Movie Controller Type and save. It doesn't look like I need to buy QT 7 PRO for this. Anyway, I did that and 'Show Movie Properties' is grayed out with a PRO icon in front of it. When I click it, it goes to Buy Now for the 7 Pro.
Any comments would be helpful.

Sep 9, 2008 1:44 PM in response to Kyn Drake

O.K. I don't know what sprite tracks are...and how do I know if I have them without getting into too much?
Yes, I can control presentation using arrows keys but if a presenter needs to go back a few slides using the arrow keys, the audience has to sit through each animation going backwards (taking each animation or bullet off screen, one at a time instead of whole slide at once). I have 2 to 6 animations per slide on a 286 slide presentation. Do you know if the QT 7 PRO shows controls with these sprite tracks before I purchase?

Sep 9, 2008 2:05 PM in response to ASSIST

Sprite tracks are what Keynote uses to create a QuickTime movie that will stop on certain slides and enables you to use hyperlinks to different slides.

Neither the regular nor the Pro version of QuickTime will show controls in full screen. I'm searching to see if there's a way to force the HUD with movies that have sprite tracks. I think there is one, but I haven't hit the right search terms yet 😉

If a presenter needs to go back a few slides, how do you currently handle that?

Sep 11, 2008 7:13 AM in response to Kyn Drake

Thanks for the explanation on the sprite tracks. Too bad Keynote doesn't show controls in QT. Maybe I should enter a feedback on this. If you find a backdoor way to make this happen, please let me know.

Until now our presenters use PowerPoint Slide Shows that are password protected (so they can't change it) but with so many people switching to Macs (a good thing!) our company purchased one and I recreated the PowerPoint to a Keynote Presentation. So yes, I'm a new Mac user trying to figure things out. I know Macs can't open a password protected PP file. I also realize you can export a .keynote file several different ways but I know you can't protect it (security wise) so presenter can't change it. *Do you know of a way?* I couldn't find a way so I exported it to a QT movie and this is where I'm at. You've been very nice trying to help me, any suggestions would be greatful!

Sep 11, 2008 10:23 AM in response to ASSIST

The first problem, I guess, is how the presenters got the notion that they should be able to change the presentation! 🙂

You're right, there is no password controls. Also, while you can "lock" a file (do "get info" and click the locked button), someone can still open and change content, they just can't save. Also, they may also know how to unlock a file (do "get info" and click the locked button), so that's not very secure.

I'm wondering now about placing the file on an external flash drive set to honor permissions. If the permissions were set to read but not write, that MIGHT work, but it might not. Would this be going too far out of the way?

Also, is everyone using the same Mac? If so, there may be some other opportunities for placing files in a location that certain users can't alter.

Sep 11, 2008 2:07 PM in response to Kyn Drake

It's a presentation for interior designers to present to homeowners that includes several "before and after" images from several different interior designer firms that sponsored us enabling us to use for inspiration photos. Each image also includes credits on the photo for that particular designer & firm. If a designer didn't like a few photos and wanted their company credits in the presentation...they could just delete or add slides with their work (images)! How's that for an answer. 😉

Nothing is going out of the way as this point! As far as the external flash drive...these are distributed on CD. As for the locked file idea, I tried it. I locked the presentation and only enabled myself with 'read & write' privileges, staff and everyone else 'read only'. I sent it to my son (Mac user) as a test. He said he could change it, save it, and save-as under a different file name. Do I have to unlock, change my permission to "read only" too, then lock again??? that might work. How do you "set to honor permissions"? I searched in Keynote User Guide and found nothing.
Thanks again.

Sep 11, 2008 2:27 PM in response to ASSIST

If you connect a USB drive to your computer and format it for Mac, when you do a Get Info on it, at the very bottom there should be a check for "Ignore ownership on this volume". Uncheck that and that should make it un-alterable on the Flash drive BUT, someone could always copy it off the drive to their local system and make the changes there (then display THAT version).

As long as they can "read" the doc so that they can present it, they'll be able to copy and alter it because the app doesn't do any checks like PowerPoint does. I think that in the (apparently) cutthroat world of interior designing where you can't trust the presenters, there may be no other option other than PowerPoint.

I'm still looking to see what key commands force the HUD by the way.

Sep 12, 2008 8:20 AM in response to Kyn Drake

Huh, I didn't realize you had to format a flash drive for a Mac, I'll check that out.

O.K. I may have something that I said I was going to try...I unlocked the file, changed *_My* permission_, the Staff and Everyone else to "Read Only" privileges, then locked again. I then zipped it and sent it to my son this morning. He said he could open it, change it but it would not allow him to save it! I'm going to test it further somehow but I don't know anybody else that has a Mac w/Keynote '08. Do you have Keynote 08? Can I send it to you to test (it would be alot easier) or to someone in the Keynote discussion area?

This message should now have a subject line..."Keynote presentation to CD to be accessed, but not changed?" When this all began, I searched discussions in Keynote on this and found nothing with a concrete answer, only that you cannot save a keynote presentation as password protected. I posted twice and no one answered. I think this part of our discussion will help Keynote people.

*Back to your area of expertise and my original question!*... Can you still look to see what key commands force the HUD for me for my QuickTime Movie as Slideshow? I know they could not change that, but the arrow controls would have to be displayed. I don't know what HUD means but I'm going to search too... I found this link: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/Conceptual/QT7-2Update_Guide/NewFeaturesChangesEnhancements/chapter_2_section9.html
Could you take a look and see if this is what I need? I do have Mac OS X v10.5.4 and QT v7.5 and my Preferences window does not have a recording tab but my Full screen window looks that same. When I view my A/V controls it also doesn't view as in figure 1-8. I'm confused again! QT 7.5 is the latest version, isn't it?

Sep 12, 2008 9:38 AM in response to ASSIST

You don't HAVE to format it for a Mac, as OS X reads the FAT format just fine. However, I believe permissions are only retained for OS X's file formatting.

If you have .mac, you can upload it to your idisk and I can get it from there.

I went to that link, but, while it does show the controller, it doesn't show how to force it to appear.

Sep 12, 2008 10:59 AM in response to Kyn Drake

O.K. on the USB drive formatting.

Thanks but I do not have .mac account. This is the new Mobile Me, correct?
Can I send the zipped file to you through email to test?

I just updated my QT Player to 7.5.5. On the link that I gave you, it looks like those are changes and enhancements are for QT 7.2.1. If I have 7.5.5, I should already have these changes, right?

It even states in QT Player Help: "What's new in QT Player"- *Floating controls* Full-screen mode now provides floating DVD-like controls for easy access to functions like pause, play, fast-forward, rewind, and full-screen modes. Move your mouse and the controller appears on the screen for several seconds. Then goes on to say QT PRO enjoys these features but also additional capabilities.
This obviously is a glitch.?? I know I said this before, just getting frustrated.

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