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  • Peter Gatto Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)
    Hey Varus,
    Wish I could. =) I would be interested in doing a side by side comparison in the same location. My wife has an iPhone but its the 2G.

    I few people at work have the 3G and we compare notes but it's not the same. Most say they are pretty happy with the update though.
  • Varus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    My wife has the 2G also, no problems.........

    My 3G is the paper weight.....
  • Varus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    michealab, it is not to be mean but I see that you are in Protugal which is smaller than my state (Pennsylvania), the probelms are happening here in the USA not in your tiny country.

    It is great that your phone works in Portugal, a piece of advice do not bring it to the USA it won't work!!!!!
  • michaelab Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    Varus, I was specifically taking issue with your claim that the iPhone 3G has a faulty 3G chip (and that "we all know this") and needs to be recalled. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this is the case.

    Also, the size of the country in which I live is not remotely relevant to the discussion. However, the fact that 3G reception problems appear to be far more widespread in some countries than others would point to a network problem more than an iPhone hardware issue. My point was that there are a huge number of people (including many in the USA) who don't have any 3G reception issues.
  • Adriano Merhere Moreira Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
    Look, I live in Japan (sorry for my poor english) and I am sure that Apple just did a dirty trick in 2.1 signal.
    In Japan we can't use the iPhone with Edge , is only 3G or nothing.
    In my home I can get a good signal , 5 bars all the time and show -65 when I switch to numbers.
    In my work have a bad cell phone reception and before 2.1 update never show more than 3 bars. 1 bar almost all the time.
    Now with 2.1 show 4 or 5 bars in my work , but when I switch to number show -109, and the safari take a lot of time to open a page and sometime show error because can't open the page or receive e-mails too.
    My wife have a common 3G phone, the same operator (Softbank) and when we go to the shopping her phone work very fine, receive and call with no problems. But the iPhone don't do the same, almost all the time I can't receive calls and is a torture to make one, even with 5 bars showing in the screen .
    And my wife laugh of me and say "This fancy phone is useless !! Do you like to use mine lol??? "
    Apple is trying to fools us showing a lot of bars with a bad reception.

    Damm , Apple start to do bad things like microshit
  • JJT2122 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    2.1 just shows what the true 3g is now because before it was showing very few bars.
  • musicvan Level 1 Level 1 (140 points)
    Good to hear some feedback from another country network, just confirms thousands of posts already listed that the iPhone has a poor receiver.
  • Scott Emeson Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
    I'm tired of people trying to relieve Apple of the reception problems and pointing the finger at AT&T. So far, most comments are speculation based on half-baked deductions. Even if this proves to be an AT&T problem, it’s still Apple’s fault, as they chose them as their partner; after doing much due-diligence they knew what kind of company and network they were getting involved with.
  • werwerwerwer Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    How can a -110 dBm signal which drops out after a minute equate to 4 bars of 3G? I didn't like have zero/one bars but it was at least a good indicator of the weakness of the signal. The indicator really doesn't impart any information at all now.
  • Doug Clements Level 1 Level 1 (95 points)
    Hey Everyone,

    Here is an article I just read on Wired. Thought I would share it with everyone...

    *Fewer dropped calls.*
    In a survey conducted by, 40 percent of readers report that they're getting fewer dropped calls than they did before the update. Another 43 percent currently state that the update has made no change one way or the other, while 15 percent state that they're getting more dropped calls than ever. Upshot: The new software probably won't hurt your calls, and might lead to fewer dropped ones.

    *Increased 3G download speeds.*
    "We're seeing an overall more consistent kbps score and the number of 3G tests where the user scored a real low 100kbps -- 300kbps is down," said Donovan Lewis, the administrator of Test My iPhone, in an article on Cult of Mac. In other words: Fewer people are seeing very slow 3G speeds, and (presumably) more people are seeing faster speeds.

    *Faster application installation.*
    Ars Technica reports that applications are quicker to install under iPhone 2.1. Also, they report that there's less lag when opening, browsing and searching an address book of about 600 contacts. (On my own iPhone, with nearly 2,000 contacts, the contacts lag is only slightly minimized.)

    *Better song info and recommendations.*
    As Gadget Lab reported last week, the iPhone's list of songs now displays an extra line of information about each track. There's also the much-vaunted "Genius" recommendation feature, which suggests additional songs you might want to buy based on what you're listening to now.

    *More bars.*
    Many reviewers are reporting that phone reception in general is better. In many cases reviewers say that the signal-strength indicator in the corner immediately added bars after the update finished installing. Just a trick? Probably not, since most reports agree that reception is indeed better.

    *Reduced backup time.*
    One complaint about previous versions was that the "backup" phase of iPhone syncing took way too long -- 20 minutes or more. That problem appears to be fixed now, according to Gizmodo.

    Post your response here:

  • wjbertrand Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    The 3G data connection does seem better after I performed the 2.1 update. Here in my office (a spotty 3G area) I would often get a failure message that the phone could not reach the data network, for example if I was trying to check a stock price or something. I would also often see the dreaded "no service" message at the upper left. It would try to hang on to the weak 3G connection to the point that I had to turn off 3G to force it over to Edge where it would finally retrieve data, albeit somewhat slower than 3G. I haven't had those problems since updating and I almost never see the Edge network anymore.

    I wasn't really having a lot of trouble with dropped calls before the update so I can't really say if that's any better or not. I've noticed no improvement in battery life, in fact it might be a bit worse. Maybe this is because the improved 3G connection cause the phone to spend more time on the 3G network and therefore uses more energy? My understanding is that this network is more power sapping than Edge is.
  • Varus Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    I really don't care what any magazine says. The fact is that now I have the same amount of dropped phone calls with more bars!

    The reception "seems" better (more bars) but the connection is the same, to me it's a trick.

    The phone should be recalled.
  • MichelleF9 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I just got the iPhone yesterday, it came with the new SW upgrade already. I live south of Washington DC, and have horrible signal strength. Usually one bar if im lucky, otherwise, its "No Service." After reading some information on the internet, I decided to turn off 3G, my bars immiediatly increased. So, even with the new SW update, my 3G service is horrible and at times just non-existent. Could this be a faulty chip? Or should I hold tight for another SW update? I have 30 days to return the phone. I currently have Verizon service and NEVER had a problem with signal, ANYWHERE! But, i really want to like this phone!
  • George0211 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Mine was a little weird. Right after the update I got awful reception, it was actually going to "no Service" a lot. Then after I re-charged the phone 3G greatly improved and been great ever since. Battery life went down the drain though.