Audio overlay node points

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Audio overlay node points

Hi,

Is there a way to add and adjust audio node points on two tracks at the same time when the tracks are not linked as a stereo pair?

For example, I have doubled up an audio track to get an overall better level. I have linked the duplicated track to the existing audio track and video but I don't want to make them a stereo pair but I do want to add points and adjust those points together.

Is there a modifier key that I press as I add a point with the pen tool?

I have tried all the keys but I can't find one that does it.

Thanks.

Weenie

imac, Mac OS X (10.5.4), 24", Intel 2.8Ghz, 4GB RAM, 1TB Drive

Posted on Sep 19, 2008 5:42 AM

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Answer 1

Sep 19, 2008 7:54 AM in response to deaniweenie

They must be a stereo pair to be adjusted together. You can easily make them a pair while you're editing and just unlink them. We do what we need to do when we're presented with unplanned situations.

But doubling a clip is not a good way to build level, that's how we used to do it before we knew any better. Use the appropriate audio filter: Dynamics Processor or Gain.

bogiesan

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deaniweenie Author

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Sep 19, 2008 8:05 AM in response to David Bogie Chq-1

Thanks for that David.

The only problem with making them a stereo pair is that they are panned left and right so it adds to the workflow. It's a shame that in the 'modify' menu there isn't a 'link audio overlays' facility.

I )mostly) find that doubling up the audio is the simplest and quickest way to get good level. It also gives better visual feedback of what you have done. Increasing gain also increases noise and so introduces other issues.

All my audio is processed in Soundtrack but I like to get it as near as I can in FCP first.

Weenie

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Sep 19, 2008 8:11 AM in response to deaniweenie

I )mostly) find that doubling up the audio is the simplest and quickest way to get good level. It also gives better visual feedback of what you have done. Increasing gain also increases noise and so introduces other issues.

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The doubling method has introduced what you think are unacceptable hassles to your workflow so it's not working at all, right?

Doubling a track does exactly the same thing adding gain accomplishes, increases everything by a factor of two, including noise. Dynamics Processor allows you to selectively tune the response curves.

If your' using SoundtrackPro, more power to you, I have never even bothered to open that thing. Shouldn't you be pulling the file back into STP and make gain adjustments there?

bogiesan

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deaniweenie Author

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Sep 19, 2008 8:34 AM in response to David Bogie Chq-1

No, I can't be pulling loads of individual clips into Soundtrack Pro (maybe I should) but I do use it on the final edit and I think it's a great program. It's a bit young yet and needs a lot of niggles ironing out but it does a great job. I can't believe you haven't touched it. I used it because first and foremost I'm a sound recordist and I love messing about with audio apps and I couldn't wait to get my hands on Soundtrack. The first time I used it I nearly consigned it to the trash can but I decided to stick with it and now I wouldn't be without it.

I used to use the FCP audio effects to adjust my audio but then people on here were banging on about the merits of doubling up so I gave it a go and liked it. However, the fact that you can't easily link the node points is a pain so I may go back to the filters.

Thanks.

Weenie.

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