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PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro

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Sep 21, 2008 2:53 PM
I just bought an ATI Rage 128 Pro 32MB PCI video card for my early quicksilver G4 (733 MHz, 1GB RAM). The idea was to add a second monitor to my 15" Apple Studio Display connected to the AGP card (ATI Rage 128 Pro with ADC and VGA). Doesn't work though:

Card does not show up in System Profiler.app in either PCI or Graphics/Displays

Display does not show up in System Preferences.app - Displays tab

Quick search on Apple.com, ATI, OWC, and Google reveals no driver information for this card.

Thanks in advance,

-- Aubrey Granner
PowerMac G4, iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • motsteve Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
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    Sep 21, 2008 3:30 PM (in response to agranner)
    What is the origin of this board? eBay? Online? Friend's Mac? etc?
    iMac 20" and G4 Digital Audio, Mac OS X (10.5.4), G4 is MacOSX(10.4.11) iMac 3G ram G4 1G ram
  • kaywayne Calculating status...
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    Sep 21, 2008 4:54 PM (in response to agranner)
    According to Diablotek web page this is a PC video card.
    Digital Audio, Mac OS X (10.3.x), 1.467 7455B CPU upgrade DVD Samsung Super-WriteMaster Flashed Radeon 9800 Pro
  • motsteve Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
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    Sep 22, 2008 1:29 AM (in response to kaywayne)
    Two choices. Keep board and get it reflashed or send board back and get a video card with a Mac configuration. OWC has a really nice board with a lot more horsepower than the RAGE for $110.
    http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=pop&model=149&type=Video&TI=18 58&shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades

    Other route may be to go to eBay and see if someone has the Rage128 PF Pro or whatever you have in your present G4. BTW, go to your system profiler (in your Apple Menu>About this Mac> More info...) and find the exact G4 model you are using and put that in your forum profile. This aids greatly in troubleshooting problems with your Mac. Include other info like ram size if you can. You can't have too much info here.
    iMac 20" and G4 Digital Audio, Mac OS X (10.5.4), G4 is MacOSX(10.4.11) iMac 3G ram G4 1G ram
  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Sep 22, 2008 4:58 AM (in response to agranner)
    Stick with option #1 that motsteve gave you.

    At least, don't even mess with the PC Rage 128. Not even worth the bother to flash it, if you could.
    Just return it......

    BTW, why do you want a PCI card for an AGP machine?
    Replace the AGP card with a higher horsepower model, run two monitors off that, and have much better performance than any PCI graphics card will ever provide.......
    G4AGP(450)Sawtooth, 2GHz 7447A, 2GB RAM, Raptor/SE16/Firmtek, Radeon 9800 256MB, Mac OS X (10.5.5), ATI Silencer, DVR-116, 23"ACD, Ratoc USB2.0, QCam Ultra, NikonCoolscan, 520W PSU
  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Sep 22, 2008 3:47 PM (in response to agranner)
    Hi-

    OK- I understand the desire to keep the ADC....
    If you can, get a Mac Edition Radeon 9000 Pro. It will have ADC and DVI. The Geforce4 Ti has some power, but it does have a few compatibility problems.
    The 9000 can run a monitor and a LCD TV with a fair amount of resolution choices, and will work well in the QS.
    Though currently a different card, I used a 9000 in a QS that is a media server. It is connected to a 37" LCD TV via DVI to HDMI. The 9000 worked well.....

    Because the DVI port is DVI-I, it has integrated analog. A DVI to VGA adapter can be used.
    Better, is to use a digital connection. A DVI to HDMI connection will work the best.
    Of course, though normally HDMI has integrated audio, the DVI doesn't, so audio out is separate.
    G4AGP(450)Sawtooth, 2GHz 7447A, 2GB RAM, Raptor/SE16/Firmtek, Radeon 9800 256MB, Mac OS X (10.5.5), ATI Silencer, DVR-116, 23"ACD, Ratoc USB2.0, QCam Ultra, NikonCoolscan, 520W PSU
  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)
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    Sep 23, 2008 2:43 AM (in response to agranner)
    Hi Aubrey Granner-

    The ATI Radeon 9000 is a better card than the Geforce4 MX.
    http://www.barefeats.com/gr7000.html

    Another good thing about ATI cards is the native drivers in OS X are better than the Nvidia drivers. The ATI Displays Control Panel is also nice for configuring the Radeon cards, and help when connected to TV's because of overscan control ability.

    All DVI equipped OEM cards have DVI-I. As I said, this is both analog and digital, so analog (VGA) adapters may be used.
    DVI-D is digital only.
    DVI-A is analog only.

    With the 9000, you will be able to use the ADC port for your monitor, and use DVI to VGA or DVI to HDMI to the TV.
    Again, if at all possible, stick with a digital connection (DVI to HDMI) to the TV.
    G4AGP(450)Sawtooth, 2GHz 7447A, 2GB RAM, Raptor/SE16/Firmtek, Radeon 9800 256MB, Mac OS X (10.5.5), ATI Silencer, DVR-116, 23"ACD, Ratoc USB2.0, QCam Ultra, NikonCoolscan, 520W PSU

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