how to compress my songs PLS HELP ME!

OK It seems like all my songs are in the decompressed state, and 200 songs takes about 1.80 GB and I have like 4GB, so it look slike my iPod Nano will fit only 500 songs, but they told me it's gonna fit 1000 songs...so i think my songs are decompressed or sth like that, could anyone tell me how to compress them into mp3?
When I choose "convert selection to mp3" I think it takes the same capacity, because I tried it with about 20 songs and the capacity is still the same, so I dunno what to do...I'm confused:( Please the smart ones who know whats going on help me!!!

Posted on Oct 5, 2005 8:24 PM

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Oct 6, 2005 8:49 AM in response to Kampah

I have to take exception to your post Kampah.

For one thing, AAC does not 'produce mp3'. AAC does not equal MP3, it's more advanced and uses different encoding schemes in different frequency ranges. Furthermore, 128kbps AAC sounds better than 128kbps MP3, and most of my audiophile friends agree.

As far AAC not sounding different than CD, that's not true either. I've done a great deal of 'deaf' testing (two copies of the same song, played randomly) and cannot tell the different between 256kbps AAC and CD, but anything below 256 I -can- tell the difference.

Oct 6, 2005 11:22 AM in response to Toby Sanchez

Tony, I have a question? I'm new to the Ipod world. My 2GB Nano maxed out first attempt @ 35 songs. I found sopgs that were saved as WAV files, obviously that was part of the issue. After I converted to MP3's, I just got 58. I only have 8 photos, so that should not be an issue. What can I do within Itunes that will allow me to get at least 200 songs? I realize some of my 58 are over 4+ minutes, but I should be able to get 200+, I just do not know what I am doing wrong?

Oct 6, 2005 11:30 AM in response to asia

Asia,
Check Edit>Preferences>Advanced and Importing tab. Choose AAC or MP3 with lower bitrate for smaller sizes. I personally use outlame and then copy to iTunes after I'm done reducing the size to 1/2 the size of a typical 320kbps song. A 4 minute song at 320kbp is around 7.5MB, mine are round 3.4mb=double the capacity.

Oct 6, 2005 11:59 AM in response to kalvis917

Did you convert them to mp3 at 128 kbps or some other size? how many minutes the song is doesnt really matter, 4 min song in WAV is still a 4 minute song at mp3 @192 and still a 4 min song at mp3 @ 128, but all will be different file size and that's what matters.
also, check the size of your pictures, they might be taking up all the space. i know 8 of my pics would take up a lot of space as they're taken by a Digital SLR in RAW format.

Oct 6, 2005 12:45 PM in response to Sonya Berkovich

Thnx Sonya,
I had the 58 songs then put the pictures on. I let the Windows media player convert them. I did see in Windows Explorer the sizes and when they were WAV, they wer like 55,??? and then after converting them to MP3, they went to like 5,???. Someone suggested using the AAC or loosless in advanced properties of itunes, your thoughts????Thank YOu for the assistance...Kevin

Oct 6, 2005 12:51 PM in response to kalvis917

55 what? 5 what? im guessing megabytes. lossless is huge, dont use that. go to itunes, preferences and set your import setting to iport w/ 128kbps AAC then convert all your music to that. or 128kbps mp3 and convert all your music to that.

also, have you thougth taht it might be another problem? if hte songs are around 5mb each it shouldnt fill up w/ 58 songs.
what steps are you following to add songs to your ipod? and did you check teh size of your pictures that you loaded?

Oct 6, 2005 1:25 PM in response to Sonya Berkovich

Sorry, the size was 55,000 in size then 5,000. I'll remove the pictures to free up some space. Have not that it could be another problem. My wife's mini is fine, 7 to 8 cd's, but she did not know how she did it, LOL. The process "WAS", use Windows Media Player to rip to a MP3 and then to a directory then move them. I don't believe I tried to rip/burn via Itunes. Plesae provide me your thoughts on using the Windows Media Player. I know I will love the nano if I can get 200-300 songs on it. Think this will work, Once Again Thank You for your help,
Kevin

Oct 6, 2005 2:26 PM in response to kalvis917

Dont waste your time w/ WMA, since you're using itunes to organize your music and transfer to the ipod. its easier if you just use itunes (default should be 128 aac), then itunes will rip it for you, organize it, and make it easy to transfer to the nano.
just pop the cd in, open itunes and click import, after you're done, connect your nano and sync w/ your library.

Oct 6, 2005 3:38 PM in response to asia

I recently bought Nero Ultra Edition even mp3pro/mp3 plugin, i use it constantly to CD to what not but i never enable pro since only high bitrate is 96, i use mp3 highest 320 44 kHz is it safe to use this with my iPod nano rather than using iTunes plus will it hit the 1000 mark for 320 kbit 44 kHz srry newbie here and my nano doesnt arrive till next week 😟

Oct 6, 2005 3:42 PM in response to asia

This was originally posted by the incredible Sparky the wUnderdog

"As a general principle, you can fit more CDs on your iPod if you encode at lower bitrates (making smaller files), but at the cost of audio quality. Lossless promises to capture all the data on the original CD (thus preserving quality) but coded so the file takes half the space. MP3 and AAC (an implementation of variable bit rate MP4) both eliminate some of the information on the CD in order to compress the digital recording into ever smaller files--the lower the bitrate, the smaller the file, but smaller files mean more information lost and consequent poorer sound quality.

iTunes's MP3 encoder is so-so; the LAME encoder is better at preserving sound fidelity to the original. AAC files ripped in iTunes certainly sound better than its MP3s, with audio quality close to the best LAME MP3s at higher bitrates. With the type of music I listen to most often, sound quality declines substantially as bitrates fall below 256kbps, but LAME or AAC @ 256kbps sounds pretty darned good, and at 320kbps LAME alt-preset-insane is amazingly faithful to the original. However many users claim that with the music they listen to they can't hear the difference between 192 or even 128 kbps files and the original CD source, so they naturally choose higher compression rates to fit more "songs" on their iPods.

CDs take approximately 10MB per minute of music; Apple lossless takes 5MB/minute; LAME insane takes 2.5MB/min; AAC or MP3 at 256kbps take 2MB/min; and iTunes Store files (AAC@128kbps) take 1MB/min. At these rates, a 20GB iPod (really 18.6GB) can hold anywhere from 30 hours to over 300 hours of music. (iPod marketers express this potential playback capacity as "songs," figuring 4 minutes per song--thus 300 hours at 128kbps = 4500 "songs.") You will need to listen to samples ripped with different bitrates and codecs to determine the optimum tradeoff point for you between quality & quantity. It's worth taking some time to do this at the start as it sure beats reripping everything in your collection 2 or 3 times to get it right later.

So far as convenience goes, nothing beats iTunes's one-step process. To change bitrate as you import from CD, go to the iTunes menu > Edit > Preferences, select the Importing tab, choose AAC or MP3 encoder in the "import using" selection box, then choose "Custom" in the "setting" box, and the window permitting bitrate selection will pop up. If you choose iTunes MP3 encoder, at least use VBR (variable bit rate) to maximize the sound quality. (VBR increases sample size as data complexity increases.)

If you would prefer LAME MP3s, fear not, for the easy-to-use CDex ripping software is a free download and requires only one simple extra step to get the files into iTunes for transfer to your iPod. Now if AAC sound quality is comparable to LAME MP3, you might wonder why you should even consider LAME: Because of portability to other devices. At present, hardly anything but iPods can read AACs or Apple Lossless, but almost everything reads MP3s. So if you plan to burn CDs of your compressed files for playback on your home or car CD player (for instance), it would be wise to choose MP3.

One other consideration specific to the iPod: It has a 32MB cache. If you choose a compression rate that results in large files (i.e. lossless), then the cache won't hold very much 'music' and the hard drive will have to spin up frequently to fill it, and that will shorten your battery life somewhat."

JC

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